Approx £50,000 per year to keep Jo Cox's killer in jail.

Whole life tarrifs are definitely pointless if they don't actually mean that the person will spend their whole life in prison. Certain people should never be released.

As for the death penalty - personally I'm against it, though if it did still exist in Britain, there are certain people who it would definitely be difficult to argue against receiving it - Ian Huntley and Roy Whiting spring to mind. As for Lee Rigby's killers, personally I'd be very wary of the possibility of martyring someone, which is what I think would happen in this case.

 

I put it down to all that time you spent in neo-facist Arab countries

 

But as another poster has said, the killers will of Lee Rigby WANT to die, they believe they are getting a martyrs death. Far better punishment to prevent that for a long as possible.

 

That would be my only issue with sending them to the gallows - giving them what they wanted. On balance I still think I would do it.

 

A few things.

1. We rightly don't have the death penalty, you can't rectify miscarriages of justice when the wrongly convicted is dead.
2. We condemn the likes of ISIS for their barbaric justice system - and you want us to be like them?
3. He would be getting off lightly....

 

Re: so because he is a human he is spared the rod....

Because they're animals, not people. It would be ludicrous to give animals the same rights as humans

 

It's a tricky one. The Boston Marathon bomber is another one who will not be missed. If ever there was a case in which it's nigh-on impossible to argue against the application of the death penalty aside from personal convictions, then this is it. However, elevating him to martyr status sends all the wrong messages from the US to the fundamentalist Muslim world. I just feel that leaving him to rot alone with nothing but his own twisted thoughts for company is both a far worse punishment and a far stronger statement than executing him would ever be. Execute him, and he'll always be remembered, like Timothy McVeigh. Throw him in jail for the next seventy years and his name will quickly be forgotten. No costly appeals dragging on for years, no media circus. I think it's just a better all-round solution.

 

There are very compelling arguments on both sides as you have illustrated in your post. I'd like to think that the type of convicted criminal that we would see suitable for the death penalty would be kept in basic conditions for the whole of their tariff and not be given a better lifestyle than many people achieve through honest hard work. Loss of liberty is not punishment enough for some people and I think that the perception of them getting a relatively cushy life at the expense of the tax payer partly feeds into the argument for Capital punishment.

 

1. In cases like this one and your Lee rigby killers, Huntley, Roy whiting ect ect where they have 100% got the killer they is a strong case.

2. Isis have a justice system?

3. Debatable they will most likely be on protection to stop attacks from other inmates ect our jails aren't like jails in other countries which are like hell on earth.

 

For the record, Virgin East Coast is a completely separate company to Virgin West Coast, and is Virgin in name only - I think they are one of the small owning partners (10% or so).

 

Separate argument completely, but I'd argue strongly not only for the complete legalisation of drugs but for drugs to be freely available from clinics in each area with medical supervision. It would completely remove the drugs gangs from the country and a lot of the associated crime (theft/prostitution to fund drug habits). It would also reduce the incidence of death due to overdoses or badly cut product, and reduce the prison population down to more manageable levels.

It has been predicted this would save ~£16billion each year.
(http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2009/4/7/the-cost-of-drug-laws-16-billion)

 

How would you like to get up every day knowing it's going to be the same as yesterday and will be the same every day till you die and you can never again walk free and do the things you want to do? Sounds pretty much like hell to me.

 

Sort of and it's totally barbaric.

 

Yer a suppose if you have kolled someone no one wants to play pool or table tennis with you in jail or train with you in gym.... hell

 

Wonder how many times they have had a jury and uses scientific evidence?
You can't really compare isis justice to the british justice system.... no comparison

 

No death, but no 'cushy' jail as seen so often on the news. A good 'ol Shawshank solitude would be fitting.

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so you have never heard of Animal rights then

pratt

 

Re: so you have never heard of Animal rights then

Obviously I have, I just don't think animals deserve the same rights as humans.

 

Re: so you have never heard of Animal rights then

firstly I apologise for the "Pratt" remark. It was uncalled for.

But I feel passionately that in many cases the animals of this planet , many species were here well before man the wise remember, deserve far more respect than what is given them, by the stupid creature that is MAN.

 

Myra hyndley went almost insane trying for freedom ,
Ian Brady has been fighting for years to be declared sane ,not for the so called cushy life of prison but to starve himself to death to end his suffereing.
If they had received capital punishment they would have had a few months of fear then end of punishment , the families would not have found the children buried on the moors .
Peter Sutcliffe has been living in fear of returning to prison from the mental institution which he has also lived in fear .
Don't believe in giving them an easy way out by a few months of fear then it all ends and the victims families including the perpetrators are the only ones with a lifetime of suffering.