Barnsley have signed a player accused of

You clearly haven't heard of the Colton Massive* then mate? Drive bys in mobility scooters outside Sainsburys. Knock and run as late as 9pm on some nights. Once clocked one bad boy doing 31mph on the dual carriageway, too. It's a no go area. Those grannies are savage.




*may/may not be true.

 

With the headline 'Barnsley have signed a player accused of a serious criminal offence' our first question is what was that offence?
This is where the whole discussion gets bogged down because we bring our own values to decide what sort of 'criminal offences' we would find acceptable/unacceptable in a new signing.
It is not up to us to decide what offences are not a problem and which ones are.
We can't say it's o.k. to sign the guy accused of gbh but not to sign, say, the guy accused of manslaughter or rape.

I think the club should have deferred considering the signing of this player until the court case is over.

 

How much have we paid for him?

 

What he did was disgusting and they is no excuse for assaulting paramedics imo it should carry a mandatory jail sentence. However he did plead guilty and express remorse but it would be unthinkable if he hadn't.
Wilks on the other hand has pleaded not guilty maybe he isn't guilty? Who are me or you to judge their will be a jury in May who decide that. I'm a big believer in innocent until proven guilty. It's a gamble on the club's behalf but I don't think been on bail for a offence you deny should harm your job prospects. If they thought he himself had done the stabbing and had the evidence to back this up I'm sure he would have been remanded.

 

Thats what i thought, maybe a case of wrong place wrong time

 

CPS must feel they have the cctv evidence that he was one of the people involved in the fighting, just not the stabbing(s).

 

Says he lived on Austhorpe Rd - but his family are down in Chapeltown.

I know the area well myself - and he might be down the Crossgates end of it. It’s not all elderly down there

He’s not stabbed anyone. But there is cctv footage apparently of him being involved earlier to some extent - no idea what.

Got to think there must be some decent evidence if it’s going to trial. Might have something to do with his late brother.

 

Straight outta Colton as NWA almost sang!!

 

But this thread isn't about is he guilty or not. The thread is asking should we as a club be signing a player who will, at some point during his contract period with us, be on trial for a crime which, if he's guilty, may result in a custodial sentence. We've been vocal about other clubs who've signed players in similar circumstances. It's not really about Wilks, it's questioning our hypocrisy as a fan base.

 

If you consider people innocent until proven guilty I can't see the problem. But it is a risk for the club if he goes jail
If the club had such Morales and it doesny matter about guilty or not we should have never resigned hammill.

 

Thank you.

 

That seems most likely

 

I did, still do.

 

Would you be happy were the club to sign someone charged with a major drugs offence, someone who was charged with manslaughter?

You can't cherry pick which offences should prevent an offer of a contract and which ones shouldn't make any difference.

 

You bugger, Thrash and Death Metal fan mostly, but thanks to that comment I'm now gonna have to call up NWA on Spotify( though to be honest since the Tour de France started today I have had Kraftwerk Tour de France playing loudly.)

 

Jay - you started an excellent thread.
There's a lot of hypocrisy going on here - 2 months ago we had tens of postings about Joey B - almost all saying he was guilty.
Now we have the same posters saying that someone is innocent unless proved to be guilty.
If someone takes the view that Wilks is innocent as he hasn't been found guilty then the same should apply to Barton.

As you rightly say the question you asked made no reference to guilt or innocence but simply asked should the club sign someone charged with a criminal offence.
My opinion is that they should not have.

 

To be fair, people can. There's no right or wrong, just opinion.

 

I never ventured much beyond Anthrax and Megadeth back in the days, more recently loved my System of a Down and Bring me the Horizon and more recently rap metal with prophets of rage.

 

but it gets very complicated when you try to explain why some criminal charges/offences shouldn't stop someone being offered a contract whilst others do prevent a contract being offered.