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  1. Red

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    Does a defendant have a choice of having his case heard in a magistrates court or at an Assize court?
     
    Red-Taff., Jul 17, 2019
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    leebrilleaux Well-Known Member

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    I believe that Mr Barton is, like everyone else subject to the law(s) of this country and we should accept the result no matter what the outcome.

    In addition he is also subject to the laws of the governing body the FA - so if in the event of a technicality and he gets no punishment from the Magistrates, then the FA have the power to mete out whatever punishment they deem necessary.

    On a personal level I hope he is found guilty and is given a Sine Die ban (given his history) - there have been numerous cases of such on a Sunday morning football level for attacking referees. That said I won't hold my breath for this punishment from the FA.
     
    leebrilleaux, Jul 17, 2019
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    I'd hazard a guess that Magistrates will refer the case to Crown Court due to lack of appropriate sentencing options due to his previous.
    Iirc Magistrates can only sentence up to 12 months max.
     
    6ozDave, Jul 17, 2019
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    The case could be sent to a Crown Court - generally the Magistrates have less power than a Crown Court
     
    leebrilleaux, Jul 17, 2019
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    I'll be amazed if he does any time at all, let alone 12 months. If it were up to me I'd have him banged up for life, the complete scumbag.
     
    TitusMagee, Jul 17, 2019
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    Let's hope he'll be widening the circle of his friends, and they his, very soon.
    Strangeways would be appropriate.
     
    scarf, Jul 17, 2019
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    He will be worried he as history or previous
     
    Bazza, Jul 17, 2019
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    Brian Mahoneys Waist Well-Known Member

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    Will he be tried on this incident alone or are the prosecution allowed to bring up his previous actions in a magistrates court?
     
    Brian Mahoneys Waist, Jul 17, 2019
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    True - I am pretty sure if I went to a meeting with a supplier, competitor or customer and then after the meeting as we walked away I flattened someone in a fit of rage and they needed medical treatment I would be fired pretty quickly
     
    Farnham_Red, Jul 17, 2019
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    Assizes have been gone donkeys years. Assault occasioning abh is triable either way meaning he can elect to have it tried by jury at crown court. The magistrates could send it upstairs if they feel it is too complex or their sentencing powers are insufficient. They could agree to hear the case and then send it to crown court on conviction for this reason.
     
    Darfield138, Jul 17, 2019
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    Barton and Yaxley-Lennon sharing a cell...they could have some really interesting conversations about politics and philosophy:)
     
    shenk1, Jul 17, 2019
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    Evidence of bad character, including previous convictions can be adduced in evidence if they show a propensity to the have commited the offence in question. There is a ten year time limit and the final decision is the court's.
     
    Darfield138, Jul 17, 2019
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    Wow...good research !
     
    Geddiswasguud, Jul 17, 2019
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    Can be used as supporting evidence and taken into consideration during sentencing.
     
    havana red1, Jul 17, 2019
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    If he is found guilty he will get a custodial sentence. It wouldn't surprise me if he pleaded guilty to reduce this .
     
    Redhelen, Jul 17, 2019
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    Look at what Brian Partington replied with in the original comment.......

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/367987823219922/

    "I saw what went on on the touchline and it appeared when Joey shook his hand the Barnsley manager refused to let go of his hand and was in Joeys face. At the same time one of their staff was filming on his phone as if expecting something to happen, but on the touchline Joey refused to take the bait. Somethings not right about this and I'd take his word over the Barnsley crew any day of the week"

    Still people out there who think Joey continues to be hard done by.
     
    dreamboy3000, Jul 17, 2019
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    Hes in court on 9th october, could be a real nice birthday for me
     
    BostonRed, Jul 17, 2019
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    Just read a comment on there commending him for fighting for the club. If they can't see that he was fighting for purely selfish reasons and never had the club in mind then there'll be no talking sense to them.
     
    wombwell-red, Jul 17, 2019
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    He does if he has a time machine to take him back 50 years.
     
    Tyketical Masterstroke, Jul 17, 2019
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    Excellent news.
    Whilst it's true that he should get banged up for this, considering his other bad behavior, I doubt very much that he will.
    The EFL on the other hand have no excuse for banning his ugly scouse arse from football for good. And I mean good in both of it's contexts here.
     
    RedStriker, Jul 17, 2019
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