Children more likely to be infected...

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  1. Shy Talk

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    ...than ANY other age group. 18% of kids aged 5 to 14 have contracted the virus, according to modelling by Public Health England and Cambridge University.

    In other age groups the modelling shows:
    8% of infants infected
    11% of 1-4 year olds
    16% of 15-24
    14% of 25 to 44
    9% of 45-64
    6% of 65-74
    3% of 75 and over

    Hurry up and get the schools open
     
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  2. Mis

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    Aye I can't wait to go back to work full time and spend 7 hours a day [email protected] kids for not being 2 meters apart. Oh .... and possibly getting the virus myself in the process.
     
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    Redhelen Well-Known Member

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    Just as long as you spell metres correctly when you get there!!
     
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    MiserablePontyEnder Well-Known Member

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    :D - Its the American spelling. So technically not incorrect.
     
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    Think yourself lucky it’s not only 1.5 mts as in Australia.
    On a serious note I don’t envy you at all. You should be given all the right ppe b4 schools open. (Kids are at the least risk of complications. But your not . FFS) My youngests partner has been back a couple of weeks every schoolday looking after kids of key workers. We think both had the virus 4/6 weeks ago. Not tested. So may feel a little more comfortable going.
    Stay safe and take care. Or as our great leader says Stay alert. ( the *****.) no ideas to keep you safe. What guidelines have you been given if it goes ahead.
     
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    Sorry didn't know you were going back to an American school!!
     
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  7. Mis

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    Vack? Ooooooops.
     
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    2 children in a Derby hub school been tested positive for Covid 19 ....
     
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    I think those figures are absolute rubbish to be honest.
    As a country we have tested a ridiculously low amount of people. Of those tested the vast majority have been people admitted to hospital with serious symptoms which we all known has been almost exclusively adults and predominantly elderly adults.
    After that the next biggest group has been key workers. Who again tend to be adults.

    The amount of children being tested is absolutely miniscule. Its tiny. And yet they draw conclusions that 18% of the 8 million kids (1.44 million) in that age bracket have had coronavirus. Based on what evidence?
    In reality only 697 out of 8,000,000 or 0.0087125% of children in the 5-14 age group have tested positive for covid-19.


    In comparison 49,264 elderly people aged 75+ have so far tested positive out if a population of 5.51m or 0.894%

    More than one in five of all proven covid-19 positive people are in the 75+ age group.

    So what I want to know is when that is the raw data how do they then get to such wild conclusions as they did?
     
  10. Terry Nutkins

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    A similar conclusion that you and Matt were using last week when Chris Whitty was saying it was safe to send children back to school as they couldn’t transmit it, which based on most studies from different parts of world state otherwise.
     
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    What have I said about schools reopening?
     
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    The kids been off school and nursery is the reason why so many are still off work. One Idea would be to scrap the 6 week holidays and school through them and then continue.
    Although I think the government has been abit too generous with the furlough scheme. Seems some dont want to go back and will quite happily keep getting 80%. Not sure we will ever recover from this people in there 20s will be retiring at 100.
     
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    The reason why people aren’t back at work is because we haven’t got to grip with this pandemic which is still killing 3000+ people a week and infecting many more, it’s not because teachers are having a hissy fit and don’t want to lose their summer holidays.
     
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    Correct. I know many people who are happy to earn 80% for doing nothing (and also many who are desperate to get the full 100% too)
    I also know for a fact that many companies have taken advantage of the furlough scheme to lay off staff who if the scheme wasn't available to them would have kept them in employment. It was intended as a safety net for companies who would otherwise have had no option but to make it's it's employees redundant but it has been taken advantage of as a way to cut workforce to protect profits short term. Essentially a way to put everyone in a zero hour contract.

    What they should have done is give furlough payments automatically to every single company the government told to close. Why give it to those who were told to remain open though? Why are accountants being furloughed? They certainly don't need to be.
     
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    Look at the roads many are back to work many havent stopped all the way through. Teachers have a good union behind them so no chance of them working through the 6 week holidays anyway just suggestion.
     
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  16. Terry Nutkins

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    Apologies, I thought it was you who was arguing the case last week with Tyketastical Masterstroke, it wasn’t it was Redstone.

    Apologies bruv.
     
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    The roads are empty mate. I drove to a hospital appointment at Manchester Royal Infirmary the 7 miles from my house on Thursday morning rush hour in 21 minutes. It would normally take an hour and a half at that time.
     
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    Im still working, my wife is still working.

    The point being, when it’s safe to send kids back then we should. But we shouldn’t send them back when the data isn’t as yet either robust enough or because it’s just about the money.

    I get the need to get the economy back on track but If you look at who are the worst countries in the world by capita over the last few weeks, and it’s us and Sweden. The country with the most half arsed lock down rules in the world and the other country that didn’t have lock down at all.

    We should be locking down further because of the appalling way it’s been handled until we get a grip of it. The ease down communication from the government this last week has been nothing short of negligent.

    To even put pressure on schools to open fully shouldn’t even be a discussion.
     
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    No need to apologise. I've posted so much on different covid-19 related stuff lately that I thought I'd forgotten what I'd posted.

    My opinion on schools reopening though is that I would if possible try to get all primary school pupils (apart from those with vulnerable parents) back into school but not necessarily for lessons. I'm not sure how workable it is but I'd try to use primary schools, secondary schools and even if needed other large buildings to have classes of around 10 or so kids so that they're all quite spread out. Have some fun with them too playing games or just generally entertaining them as well as teaching. As I said I'm not sure how workable it is but I think that's the age group that needs to have socially distanced childcare and schools seems the only real way to do that. If the secondary schools are empty we may as well utilise them to allow more of a spread of kids instead of shoving them all into one room
     
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