Children more likely to be infected...

Its easy to put problems in the way but let's be honest the entire country is having to adapt. Businesses are being sacrificed left right and centre and yet from teachers you just get 'nah sorry we won't change'.

It isn't that hard to move some tables and chairs from one school to another. It isn't that hard to buy some pens and felt tips. Kids can use adult sized toilets, they do at home.

 

How is the contract worded?

Is it 16 weeks (or however many it is) paid holidays per year?
Is it around 30 hours per week (averaged over the year?
Or is it something else?
Genuine question by the way

 

Yes but this isn't an ordinary situation is it. The money could come from the savings in not having to make the thousands of teachers who refuse to work redundant

 

Who’s going to pay for the removal vans? New equipment etc.? I’m not saying it can’t be done but that realistically it won’t. We could use your idea of utilising the army to do it but what would really happen is the government would stand at a daily briefing and say it’s happening tomorrow and we’ll release the guidance in a week or so.

 

People are unable to work because there is no safe childminding or education for their kids. It would pay for itself in the huge boost for the economy.

 

It’s that we must work ‘reasonable hours’ to conduct our job. There is no mention of how many hours that is (other than we can only be given a specific job to complete at specific times for 1265 hours a year which is used by heads for teaching time and meetings mainly). The rest is up to us so long as we do our work. The main problem is that our work gets more and more hoop jumping that takes hours and hours. We can’t ever say that we’ve done the hours and clocking off if our duties aren’t seen to be discharged. Support staff are paid hourly but still split over 12 months which is why the take home pay is tiny.

 

In the week ended 24 April, the total number of excess deaths was 11,539.
In the week ended 1 May, the total number of excess deaths was 8,012 (down 3,527)
Two more weeks have passed since.

Sorry but how does that support that we’re currently seeing 10k excess deaths a week? It’ll be at least half that.

 

If you make someone redundant don’t you have to wait a few years before you can rehire in that role again? I don’t think anyone is refusing to work, just advising against doing so until it is safe.

 

No they changed the rules as far as I'm aware. Now it's that there has to be a genuine change that justifies the rehiring.

 

Reception classes are play based learning ,free flow. Whether you have 5, 10 or 30 children in a class the logistics are a nightmare. Why are children still.not allowed in shops for example? It really isn't as simple as marking arrows on the floor and having a load of disinfectant wipes!

 

It isn't the same but everyone has had to try and make do the best they can. As I already pointed out they did work Easter which no one seems to be interested in at all in the anti-teacher posts from such well informed characters as Katie Hopkins.

 

It's not a anti teacher post but many of the teachers suggesting june isnt safe to go back to classroom teaching so I suggested a alternative but like I said wont happen.
Looks like some will go back from june 1st and rest will follow at later dates obviously health advisers will set guidelines etc.

 

I don't want to go back. In truth.

But whether I do or whether I do not, the decision was made for me and not by me.

I stopped working when I was told to and will start again when I am told to. If I felt I wanted to go back today, what am I expected to do? Turn up to work and crack on when I know I am not allowed to do anything at all for my employer?

The 'blame' for the scheme does not lie with the furloughed employee.

 

The "blame" for the scheme lies with the government its too generous I know a tradesman who is self employed he has worked all the way through this pandemic it hasn't effected him financially at all (as yet) but he will still claim him government grant a really good lump he is due.

And you speak for yourself not every other employer or employee in england.

 

Sorry , didn't think yours was - just bringing up some of the tweets I've seen. Some comments are absolutely appalling

 

Of course I speak for myself, in regard to not being all that bothered about going back to work.

But my point remains: the decision was not mine. I hate my job, but I've not had a day off sick in five years. I turn up, give it my best shot, and then I go home and don't think about it because I'm not interested in it. I dutifully do what I am instructed to do, and when those instructions include 'take a period of furlough, and don't come back again until I tell you to,' I do that too.

 

I get that but not every work place is the same not every employer is the same and any system like this unfortunately can be taken advantage of by the employer or employee.

 

They're expecting 3 and 4 year olds to go back and not touch each other. My 3 year old is due to have her first experience of school and time away from her parents. It'll be scary enough for her without having to distance and feel isolated. It's a recipe for mental health issues, arising from early childhood trauma. For that reason we won't be sending her until it's truly safe and isn't forced through on the back of greedy Tory doctrine. Dr Mengele Harries can **** herself, she's been wrong more than she's be right, and lies no different to cabinet ministers. Gavin Williamson is a cross between Alan Partridge and C3PO so I won't be listening to him either.

 

Are you willing to keep her out of school for maybe two years?