Found this on the 1912 final

Thought it was interesting but may have been posted before.
Couple of good links as well IMO

http://www.chrishobbs.com/1912facupfinal.htm

 

I enjoyed reading that. Very interesting.

Love the old mustard pots.

 

Didn't know only one player was from Barnsley, thought most of the team would be local back in those days, down the pit in the week and playing on Saturday.

 

enjoyed reading , found these


https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...&mid=0DCAF83580904BFACF030DCAF83580904BFACF03





https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...&mid=22A7000720644A11A8EB22A7000720644A11A8EB



think we need bigger shorts and a flat cap and knitted goaly top , come on L J , get it sorted , also more hats and caps in the crowd #youreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeds

 

Years ago in the seventies I used to go in the swaithe wmc
On Sunday afternoons as they used to have a turn on .
One Sunday the turn was the memory man who had been on opportunity knocks a few weeks before.
His act was the audience asked a question on sport and he would answer and he had loads of reference books at the side of the stage for the audience to check.
Astonishingly one of the questions was what was Barnsley's FA cup winning goalkeepers name which is documented as cooper but the memory man stated another name stating that cooper was his adopted families name and not his.(now this could actually be vice versa as its a lot of years since) and he produced a reference book to the questioner to prove point.
Obviously it was a big talking point in the club and possibly darn pits,glassworks etc for ages .
Anybody got information on this incident the point he was adopted (allegedly) is not important but never have I seen any references to it in bfc archives and just wondered why it would be in a sports reference book which although I didn't look at the book can remember it being authenticised by club members.

 

That memory mans name is Roy Blackman and he's still knocking around, here's probably his best work (IMHO) http://royblackman.moonfruit.com/#/bonny-reds-of-barnsley/4586576177

As for Jackie Cooper and his real name I thought I was the only one who knew that. I was put in contact with his niece a few years ago and the whole story of his lineage came to light. He was christened John Denman Holloway and took the name Cooper after living with the family of that name.

 

wondered how many of the 1912 team fought in war, lots were miners who didn't have to fight I believe as they were classed as doing job needed for war effort , but looks like a few did

http://www.footballandthefirstworldwar.org/barnsley-players-first-world-war/

 

Cheers Turvey
Brilliant poem,worthy of a mention in wsb IMO.
The reason it struck a chord in my memory was that I used to sit with a load of older miners mixed with us younguns and three brothers were called cooper.also there were a few that had watched the final which was awe inspiring at the time but when you think about it it was at the time a mere sixty or so years ago.
Roy was a phenomenon at the time as he could give some amazing facts and figures from major sporting events right up to the receipts for beer sales etc all backed up with official reference books which he had in abundance.
Amazing feat at any time let alone before google.

 

Not sure but I thought some kind of a footballers regiment was formed or sportsmen regiment.

 

Glendenning the hero


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Especially liked the bit where a new rule was passed where a footballer has to be granted permission by the referee to enter the field of play after going off for treatment .
This was placed in the rules after glendening ran into pitch to clear .

 

I remember his appearance on Opportunity Knocks and someone asked him who painted the goalposts at that years Cup Final. Of course he didnt know but the FA arranged for him to go to Wembley to paint the posts for the next Final.

I remember the significance of Jackies middle name now. He was called Denman but that was his birth fathers surname.

As for George Travers you could write a book on the twists and turns in that guys life. It took quite some time to work out actually who he was and only recently did we find a birth certificate for him. He was the illegitimate son of a musical star called Hyram Travers and took the name of one of his fathers legitimate children who had died at the age of six years.

 

My great grand dad, Jack Hodgson was at the game.

He would have been 16.

He fought & got wounded at the Somme & lived on till he was 97.

He had no time for **** footballers or fascists.

I share his views.

 

I love how the language has evolved...

"Special criticism of the final" available for 1d.

 

Any chance of getting some or all of these facts on players or club in print Turvey.

Couple of years ago you were compiling some old footage onto DVD if memory serves is there any progress or news on this.

If you need an agent just gis a shart I'm rubbish at negotiations but good company.

 

Re: GEORGE TRAVERS

I have been studying the TRAVERS family tree on and off for years and I am interested to learn that you have traced a birth certificate for George. The recent publishing of the '1939 Register' lists him in Birmingham with a birth date of 24 Jul 1888. But both his marriage (1908) and death (1943) calculate to 1886. Would be interested to hear about your discovery !

 

Re: GEORGE TRAVERS

You have PM

 

Re: GEORGE TRAVERS

Sorry, not with you there.

While I agree with the 'legitimate' and 'illegitimate' side of the Hyram Travers tree, I cannot agree with George's name deriving from a six year old who had died. Hyram did have another son George Edward, but he lived to 47 !

There was, however, a George Edward born to another of Hyram's sons - John George - who died aged 2. But that was not until 1905.

 

Re: GEORGE TRAVERS

You have PM means you have a personal message. Whether you believe our findings or not is your choice. You obviously know that things do add up.

 

Re: GEORGE TRAVERS

Don't really understand these message boards.
There was nothing in my 'personal message' box - except a Welcome from Gally !