Heckingbottom back in management

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  1. Bak

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    The foooooooooooking players he signed to compete at the second foooooooooooking level have just foooooooooooking got us back there: that's all.

    It's a bit like losing a foooooooooooking tenner in the foooooooooooking street and then celebrating when you find another foooooooooooking tenner 12 foooooooooooking months later.

    Besides, we've got a competent foooooooooooking manager this time and so even if we foooooooooooking struggle I'm expecting more than seven foooooooooooking goals in 14 foooooooooooking matches.
     
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    Why do people keep dwelling in the past?! “Wish Hammill was still here” “Heckingbottom would’ve got us promoted” - let’s just enjoy promotion and back the current team and coaching staff. Done a marvellous job regardless of who assembled the squad.
     
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    You forgot to put half of it in capital letters
     
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    Been done to death this hasn't it? Decisions were made regarding recruitment and contracts all the way back to when we won the play off final. The end result of that was assembling a very good league one team, that league one team was not surprisingly relegated to league one.
    Now with some further changes to that squad we have another crack at the championship. With the benefit of those players having developed and improved over the last 2 seasons. We have a popular, enthusiastic and talented head coach, hopefully we approach recruitment differently this time and try and build a good championship side.
    Heckingbottom had some good times here and some bad. It's not binary for me, it's not all Heckingbottoms fault nor is he blameless.
     
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    Had much more of a say then you try and let on. But we've done that debate to death and I know you're firmly in the Hecky camp for obvious reasons
     
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    Obvious reasons? I just give my honest opinion, I don’t think any manager wants to fill his squad with young inexperienced players from the lower leagues
     
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    Bit more than honest opinions.

    Potts and Ugbo were Hecky signings. The latter being a young inexperienced player from the higher leagues.
     
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    Were they? Could you tell me how you know this? Logic would suggest Potts might have been because he chucked him straight in the team but it’s all guess work.

    Again, we only sign players within certain parameters (or at least have for the last few years under Cryne) so even if a manager says ‘I’ll have him’ we don’t know if the manager really wants that player or if he thinks he’s the best of the ones that fit within them parameters.

    e.g. Daniel Stendel might have wanted to sign a 28 year old German attacking midfielder but the board say no to that as there’s no re-sale value so he gets Mike Bahre instead.
     
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    See another one of our loan men brought in by Hecky re- Ryan Kent, has
    been voted Premiership Young player of the year by the Scottish PFA members
    for his performances for Glasgow Rangers this season.
     
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    I watched a bit of the first half of their game yesterday. From what I could see, Ranger's were totally dominant.

    It's a really poor league, and like I said when he took the job, it's a safe job.

    Heckys got no pressure to challenge Celtic, and there are loads of poor teams Hibs can beat easily to stay in the little group near, but not at the top.

    As long as he stays in the top 5 or 6 and beats Hearts he'll be a hero.

    He hasn't proved anyone right or wrong by doing ok in the Scottish premier league.
     
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    Mowatt,yiadom,Davies and Gary Gardner had plenty of championship experience. Hecky knew we couldn't afford to sign championship proven players he knew we couldn't afford championship wages he said so himself.
     
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    Yiadom & Davies had one season each in the championship. Gardner was only fit for about 10 games under him & Mowatt was out on loan so if they’re the best examples of championship experience it probably suggests why we weren’t doing so good
     
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    Davies had a good season 1st season and so did yiadom they were championship level players. McDonald also did well with a years experience in the championship not to mention hammill.
    My main point was hecky knew the club could not afford championship experienced players. Gardner was on about 18k a week at brum. He said himself in interviews we had to give players a chance to make the step up.
     
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    e.g. Daniel Stendel might have wanted to sign a 28 year old German attacking midfielder but the board say no to that as there’s no re-sale value so he gets Mike Bahre instead.[/QUOTE]

    Unless I’ve misunderstood. No resale value in Bahre either. As he’s not our player.
     
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    I agree with all that I just think that no manager wants to fill his squad with young inexperienced players so they’re never really his players they’re just the ones that he judges as the best from the small pool of players that fit the criteria.
     
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    Unless I’ve misunderstood. No resale value in Bahre either. As he’s not our player.[/QUOTE]

    Think we’ve got a deal in place to sign him if we want.
     

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