How would we combat the rising cost of NHS treatment?

Just to add to the list of items you’re ignorant of.

you’re storming this.


For clarification - all parties have a hardcore of voters, labour are not unique in this.

but not all people who will vote Labour this time are those people.

elections are won by attracting the floating vote. That’s why campaigning and the media are so important and influential.

I’m astonished that more people don’t understand this simple principle.

 

There have been many facts posted on here about corbyn, many facts posted on here about the eu, all ignored when it suits. As I said the die is already cast.

 

It’s an insurance pool, increase the number of people paying in should automatically equate to spending more.

your argument is that if you take in a lodger your bills are going to go up, so it’s the lodger that’s at fault.

the obvious maths is that your income increased more than those costs. To stretch the analogy to what the Tories did, instead of spending the ‘board’ income on the food shopping, you’ve chosen to hand it over to your rich mates as a ‘tax rebate’, and now you’re complaining the lodger is a drain on your household.

 

Well you’ve certainly misunderstood some facts about the EU and ignored evidence that conflicts with your misunderstanding.

 

So what are your views on the fact checking that suggests that immigration does not place a significant strain on the NHS??? Or are you going to continue to dodge this?

 

That assumes that You invited the lodger in the first place and that he didn't rock up with his dependents because it is his right, it also assumes that whilst he’s here they all pay their way. The maths is very simple, less going out lss required to come in to cover the costs.

 

My views are its ballacks because later un the report it acknowledges that theres disagreement depending in which study you read.

 

But we did invite the lodger in. And he is paying his way.

the fact you refuse to believe that is your problem, it’s neither true or significant

 

You are unbelievable. You are either thick and incapable of understanding basic facts when presented to you in a clear and concise manner or just plain ignorant. No point interacting with you any further, you are a waste of time.

 

I don't think he mentioned the NHS or said it was ****? Unless he has somewhere else? What we eat is the number one factor when it comes to our health and thus the impact on our healthcare systems. We eat too much meat and too much dairy. The world's biggest killer is not cancer, it's heart diseases.

 

We didnt, we were told that he had the right to be here, we cant stop him coming. And wether he’s paying his way is up for debate.

 

You and one or two others in this thread would be f***** if it came down to basic knowledge. I’m amazed you can switch on a light.

 

None if the above, don't get upset just because we disagree.

 

And there it is.

 

That’s purely your outlook, there’s nothing I can do to make you a nicer person. I’m happy he’s here, he’s welcome to share my town and I’m also happy he’s paying his way.

 

You do realise we get two thirds of immigration from outside the EU, don’t you? And that should we leave the EU, we will increase non-EU immigration to make up the numbers? You know why? Because we need them. They pay into this country a lot more than they take out.

I’d take 50 immigrants and swap you for them. Odious views you hold.

 

I blame Azerbaijan.

 

Not my ‘outlook’ eu law, and whilst there’s nothing I can do to make you any less slighting you should understand that I don’t mind him either, it’s the fact that someone else dictates that he comes rather than us that I have a real problem with.

 

Calm down dear.

 

No; your outlook is that they’re being forced on you, my outlook is that they’re welcome guests.

EU law is irrelevant to how we treat them. If you wish to be unwelcoming because you feel you’re being dictated to, that’s your decision. My view is that we have more jobs than available labour, so we need to import that labour, EU law makes it simple.