Is Beckham on his way back to England Side ?

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  1. Geriatrictyke

    Geriatrictyke New Member

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    Just listned to a John Terry interview where he said that he thinks Beckham would benefit the England team, said he knows its the managers job to pick and drop but he would have no problem with Beckham coming back and thinks the team would be better for it ????? Cue shot of Beckham and Victoria in glamour mode evening dress..... Seemed a very funny subject to run on the morning of the Match with Liverpool tonight ????
     
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    Hope so

    Missed him terribly since he was dropped. Theres no balls in the midfield and we miss his quality at set pieces.
     
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    That's all we need now...

    ...the current England setup is pathetic. There are talented players in the team and squad, but clearly Steve McClaren is out of his depth and can't get them to play (doesn't know what to do with them). Beckham was playing on his reputation in the World Cup, but contributing very little. He no longer has the mobility to get to the line, he doesn't cover his full back theway he used to at United, andthis leaves him very much a luxury dead ball player. He also has suffered from pretentions of being able to run the game from the centre of the park - which blatently is not his position.Beckham is in semi-retirement, milking his endorsements in the states. What is the point in bringing him back? He wasn't even agood captain. I'd suggest that McClaren starts playing people in their correct position, grows a set of balls and drops Lampard (who is clearly a second string to Gerrard) and forgets about glorifiedfree kick/corner taker.
     
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    RE: That's all we need now...

    tha not wrong fella , abscence makes the heart grow fonder and the old rose tinted specs usually come out , witness the clamour for us to sign shipperley in january.....
     
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    He's forced his way back into the Real team and unlike

    SWP doessometimes have anend product. Can't see who we have in the England squad wide right who can produce more.
     
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    RE: He's forced his way back into the Real team and unlike

    Lennon</p>

    Wright Phillips</p>

    Joe Cole</p>

    They're queuing up. Beckham is finished, forget about it.</p>

    </p>
     
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    Owen Blackadder New Member

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    Lennon, again no end product at the moment, most effective coming on late

    and running at tired defenders. Joe Cole will play left side.
     
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    RE: Lennon, again no end product at the moment, most effective coming on late

    They're only going to develop into players with an end product if you pick them and give them a chance. Look at Christiano Ronaldo a couple of seasons ago. Beckham has no future - who cares about the Euros? Think about the World Cup. Beckham hasn't got enough left in him for this tournament, never mind the World Cup. As for Lennon - the guy has bags of ability and pace, and I have seen him putting some great balls across for Spurs. Beckhamis in the past (he has put himself into semi-retirement) - his best was about 2000 - 2002.A long time ago. If we are simply going to fall back on players of the past why not pick Chris Waddle? :D
     
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    He might be in semi-retirement when he gets to the States

    but he could have done a job over the last few games for England. Lennon looks as if could be some player in a year ot two, but he's not ready to take on the world's best quite yet. At the moment Beckham is in the Real team and is worth a place in the England squad, SWP plays for Chelsea reserves, nuff said.
     
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    RE: He might be in semi-retirement when he gets to the States

    Lennon and SWP both need consistent match practise at the international level - if they don't get that at this stage they're not going to come through. Both of them represent the future. Beckham represents the past. We could go round and round in circles on this all day.</p>

    Aside from this Beckham is 90% branding. Gerrard isa more complete player than Beckham ever was. At his height Beckham was a world class player - but he tried to 'brand' himself as one the genuinely elite players who defines a generation of football, a Figo, a Zindane, a Ronaldo. He never was that player. His crossing ability was always superb. His long passing wasexcellent a lot of the time. He waswell known for his free kicks - but they weren't always perfect (people talk about him scoring 1 in 3, but I don't think he ever actually approached that level of accuracy). His penalties were shocking. His mobility in his early days at Man United were superb and he covered a lot of ground. After the move to Madrid he got lazy - honed a body for photographs not football. As a result his engine is now decidedly suspect. His tackling is, and always has been, very poor, and very clumsy. His temperament has always been questioned because he lacks intelligence. He has never, ever had the ability to go past people with the ball. </p>

    Really, for what he now is, andon the back of the world cup hehad last year, I can't see why anyone wouldrecall him. He has clearly signalled his intentions to wind his career down by moving to a country where football isn't even the fourth most popular sport and they can't even call it by it's real name. At this point in time the England manager (shame it is McClaren) has a task of building a squad for the future - howcan this 'has been' have anything to do with that? And yes, I genuinely think we have better right sided players than Beckham.</p>
     
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    A player like SWP who isn't getting match practice at club level, shouldn't be getting that practice at international level. If he wants to be an international player, he should sign for a club that will play him week in, week out. Beckham is good enough to be named within the England squad. It won't happen though, so don't worry.
     
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    But, is it really J Terry's opinion, that England would benefit

    from Beckhams return, and if yes surely his knowledge is worthwhile. But if NO its not and he is somebodys mouthpiece, then I recon Beckham will be in the squad as soon as...
     
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    RE: But, is it really J Terry's opinion, that England would benefit

    If J Terry is being used as a mouth piece it says a lot about McClaren and the current England set up really.
     
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    RE: But, is it really J Terry's opinion, that England would benefit

    It also depends upon the context that he said it.

    If he just said it unprompted then that is one thing.

    But I suspect a journalist asked him if he thought Beckham could still do a job for England, for which the answer is "yes" and also Terry would not want to disparage Beckham anyway.
     

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