Major Dan

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  1. orsenkaht

    orsenkaht Well-Known Member

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    In all seriousness, would you expect the Russians to take the sample, analyse it, and then hold their hands up and say "yes - we done it"?
     
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    Jarvis is not my MP thank goodness.
    I've never forgotten his comments or his lack of support for the Teachers when we were fighting Gove's Cutbacks.
    Stephanie Peacock is my MP.
    I recently wrote to her to clarify some points on Labour's stance re Brexit.
    It took nigh on six weeks to receive a reply, whereas Dugher normally replied within a week.
    Dugher now spends his time criticising Corbyn on Twitter whenever he gets the opportunity.
    Stephanie Peacock was parachuted in.
    I've found her very quiet, not seen her speak in Parliament or play an active role, I'd love her to be like Laura Pidcock but so far nothing to get excited about.
    She will vote according to the way her constituents voted which is 'Leave' as she explained in her letter to me.
     
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    Yes my thoughts exactly. Not content with the over-inflated Mp wage and his 20 odd grand army pension he’s wanting a further salary as bloody mayor! Can he do both jobs? I very much doubt he can to there fullest capacity, just being a greedy self-serving sod like most MPs for me. Public servants? Don’t mek me laugh!
     
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    "Let me be crystal clear: I won’t take any mayoral salary. I will also ensure an evidence based approach to policy and public scrutiny and accountability will enable me to carry out both roles in the same way that many MPs serve in a variety of appointments, as government or shadow ministers or chairs of committees."

    https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/new...ffield-city-region-exclusive-column-1-8988613
     
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    You are wasting your time mate a it seems that they are deaf.
     
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    Agree

    What bothers me about doing both jobs as there is likely to be scenarios where his position as a Barnsley MP and his position as Mayor of South Yorkshire are likely to be at odds and there fore how does he decide?
     
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    Possible. I also see that as a Barnsley MP there will be scenarios where he as to decide what is in the national interest, his constituents interest and his parties interest. Dilemma!! I think I would trust in his judgement.
     
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    I'm surprised Jezza hasnt sacked him before now .He doesn't like anyone standing by their own beliefs .
     
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    He won’t sack him as he’s not a member of the shadow cabinet. Owen Smith might well have been standing up for his own beliefs (does he have any really?) but his outburst was in direct contradiction of Labour Party policy and under the collective unity principle he had to go.
     
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    This is a fair comment to make. However, being MP for Barnsley Central is more of a representative role whereas the SCR Mayoral role carries more executive authority. Or at least it would do if all of South Yorkshire were agreed on it as a settlement. As it stands, it seems that the mayor will have little responsibility or finances. Dan Jarvis has indicated his enthusiasm for the situation evolving into a 'One Yorkshire' deal, where hopefully no individual area will be favoured but all will benefit from a bigger devolution settlement. The mayor appointed will have a say in whether further integration should take place. The worry for me would have been that a Sheffield-based candidate might have favoured the steel city in terms of resources and attention. The grounds for fearing that would be the way in which the HS2 route was influenced, drawing it into central Sheffield rather than Meadowhall, where the benefits to all the South Yorkshire towns would have been more readily realisable. I think our neighbours need have no worry that Dan would be unfairly biased towards Barnsley's interests due to his personal integrity - although clearly everyone will have to make their own judgement on that. He would at least be providing the public with value for money in undertaking both roles at no extra salary. Whether Dan is far enough along the scale of centrists/Blairites/true socialists is another subjective opinion. But I happen to think that he is the best man to represent South Yorkshire's interests at this point in time. I would pray in aid of that the support he has received from all four council leaders since his success in the nomination ballot was confirmed. There may however be more water to flow under the bridge given the pending conflict with the Labour NEC.
     
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    Of course he had
    So Owen Smith doesn't have his own beliefs then? Cornyn sacked him cos he opposed him simple as really . And your thoughts in Sarah Champion?
     
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    I dunno. Seems pretty vacant to me and likely as not being manipulated by Blair/Clegg types

    She was a member of the Shadow Cabinet too. No Labour MP should write in the Sun. But she resigned anyway.
     
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    A proper democracy would allow anyone to write whatever they want where ever they want as long as it doesn't incite violence . She spoke out about Asian gangs raping young girls in Rotherham and used the word 'all ' instead of 'Some' that's all .A dedicated MP loved by her constituents made to resign for speaking out and defending the girls . Disgusting.
     
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    I don't like my MP standing for his or her beliefs.

    A labour MP should stand for good solid socialist policies - and in Barnsley should be solidly behind a strong brexit.

    However as under the current system we vote for an individual person as an MP they can choose to claim the majority is "theirs" or wear a socialist banner when it suits them. As far as votes in parliament are concerned they can do what the hell they like in full knowledge that they can hide behind their labour rose come election time.

    This creep tries to patronise everyone say he will be fair and make decisions on an "evidence based approach". This war monger voted for military action in syria and had he been an MP at the time would no doubt have been behind the Iraq war following his "evidence based approach on the Weapons of Mass Destruction. Basically this sound bite to me say "Mr Constituent - you are stupid - I know better than you - and will use some fancy words to completely disregard your opinion as you'll just vote me back in whatever I do you fecking mug."

    Personally I'd either take the name of the MP or the party they are allegedly linked to off the ballot paper and any campaign material. It might lead to some low turn outs and lots of spoiled papers but at least the people voting would actually know what and who they were voting for.
     
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    All and some is a big difference.
     
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    There's not much point voting locally if you don't have an individual to identify with as your representative.

    You could always chuck it all in and decide by rule from front room tv push button. Let the citizens decide on everything, ignorant as they often are. See where that gets us.

    Fair enough - I respect your rejection of a parliamentary democracy, but not your rejection of an "evidence based approach". You must want someone to get to the truth of matters. We all do.

    There's a sensible silent majority out there, despairing of all this extremist claptrap. Sooner or later they'll redress this present imbalance.
     
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    I've been waiting 40 years for it to be re-balanced away from the neo-liberal extremists
     
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    Perhaps you could list half a dozen "neo-liberal extremists" you complain of, and also half a dozen replacements for them of your own.,

    Bit like choosing a small portion of the England squad.

    Off you go....you've had 40 years to think about it.....
     
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    Going to be interesting to see how this pans out this week - nominations close at 4pm on Friday. If Corbyn and cronies scupper Major Dan then it could be the issue that triggers the great Labour schism.
     
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    Jeremy Corbyn has no say in the matter.
     

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