Multi-millionaire pledges to cut the benefits of those signed off with mental illness

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  1. orsenkaht

    orsenkaht Well-Known Member

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    Are there no depths to which they will not stoop?
     
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    He's desperate to get back in power after the election !
     
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    Yes and alter definition of "fit to work". Can someone still do do a job? Taking power away from doctors and giving to "works HR teams and occy health". Can see this resulting on less people claiming sickness benefit or pay and signing on the dole.
     
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    They are utterly vile to their core. They cut NHS to the bone, whilst lining their own pockets. Then when they finally bring the NHS to its knees, what do they do - blame the people for being sick, who can't get the treatment they need. Absolutely vile. Anyone voting Tory is absolutely complicit in this. And I literally mean anyone.
     
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    It'll be an AI written by Infosys that will force people back to work or cut their benefits. Then reports will start to appear in Private Eye and trade papers in 3-4 years, then the national papers 2-3 years after that. Then there'll be a public inquiry before the inevitable hologram vid hit of 2050 when ITV produces the dramatization of the scandal. Followed by another decade of people dying before they get the compensation they deserve....
     
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    No mention of tax dodgers though, I wonder why?
     
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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ers-long-term-ill-hits-eye-watering-2-8m.html

    Be interesting to hear what the Labour alternative is to get people back to work and cut the welfare bill by more people being in work paying tax, so taxes can be cut more.

    Those who aren't fit to work should always be supported and given the help they need. Stopping benefits after 12 months will just lead to more crime because people need to eat.
     
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    Maybe, just maybe. The Civil service could go back to flexible working (a 2019 Tory manifesto commitment) rather than being forced back to the office 60% of the time - making it significantly harder for those with chronic conditions and disabilities to work for them.

    Maybe, just maybe. They could do something about the NHS waiting lists (a 2019 Tory manifesto commitment) so those waiting for treatment could return to work quicker - or those with mental health issues can get the support they need (yet another 2019 manifesto commitment).

    Maybe, just maybe. They could sort out social care so that those caring for relatives can be freed to return to work. (guess what that was?)
     
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    Made millions ill and unfit for work with their lockdown, destroying the NHS in the process and creating years of backlogs and now blaming those people for being ill. Top banter.
     
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    Hopefully the election results mirror the polls, but it is truly staggering how many of the electorate will still want to vote for them.
     
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    First person that dies of a heart attack or something because some unqualified pen pusher says their fit for work and they weren't means the where there's blame there's a claim lawyers will have a field day and Richy boy should be the one right in the middle of their cross hairs.
     
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    It won't happen cos they won't be in power to make it happen, he's just trying to nick Braverman's extremist thunder in preparation for the leadership challenge after the election.
     
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    Still pushing the idea that lockdowns are to blame? How many would have died without them?
     
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    Impossible to tell. How many died by ignoring the government advice and ******* off to the seaside in march 2020?
     
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    You mean when everybody said we should have locked down but instead Johnson prevaricated and allowed Champions League games and The Cheltenham Festival to go ahead?
     
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    When those who were clearly vulnerable should have been taking care of themselves instead of asking everyone else to do so for them
     
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    Absolutely right but do you seriously think that people would have voluntarily stopped going to work (presumably without pay) or down the pub or to football matches without some sort of compulsion? If the public sees the Government not taking it seriously then they certainly won't.

    Edit; I won't respond to any more messages about COVID lockdowns because it is now pointless and I'm sure you won't change my opinion and I wont change yours.
     
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    Generally speaking those who were most vulnerable weren't at work. I had no problem with the suspension of mass gatherings such as sports or concerts.
     
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    You do realise that ‘the rest of those not vulnerable’ who should have been allowed to just get on with it, were the ones going into care homes to look after the people that needed to be kept away from Covid, so your argument falls down.

    Anyway as Brush has just said this is all opinions and everyone is pretty much entrenched in theirs so it’s best just to leave it.

    I understand the gripes on lockdown, and I think there’s merit in it but personally I think there was more merit in trying, at least to stop the spread. The government effed that up though by not following what the scientist actually wanted them to do. So we ended up with a **** show no matter which side of the debate you land on.
     
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    Not going to name and shame but there was a bloke on here talking about his vulnerable son with heart problems at the time who also was posting about going out to the pub right before lockdown when Covid was at its peak.
     
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