Pep Guardiola

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Is Pep Guardiola a top manager ?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. tyk

    tyketastic Well-Known Member

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    Agree completely people seem to buy into sky telling them they are watching the best league in the world.
     
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    We’ve got 6 decent teams, 12 crap ones who are easily interchangeable with half of the championship & then Everton & Leicester who are somewhere in between. I know Burnley’s doing well in the league but they’re pretty poor as well. Gone 11 games without a win before yesterday & not dropped below 7th. Shows how bad the rest are.
     
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    About sums it up. And on this showing today I don't fancy Chelseas chances in the return leg in Barca.
     
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    How good will Manchester City be next season.? Rumoured to be showing interest in
    17 year old Fulham star Ryan Sessegnon and 33 year old Barcelona veteran Andres
    Iniesta. The latter signed a contract for life at Barca in October, but his agent has said that
    it's non-binding. Iniesta has found game time hard to come by, since the arrival of £142
    million signing Phillipe Coutinho and is keen to talk to find out how he would fit in to
    Guardiola's plans. If they get those two, added to what they've already got, you could well see
    City dominate English and European football for a very long time indeed.
     
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    That would be Chelsea who just had 29% possession and zero shots on target against city.
     
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    So managers/coach's are a waste of time. It's all down to the player. Sir Alex did nothing it was down to the players. Nice.
     
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    Said this a while since, l also thought they'd have Messi by now.
     
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    No doubt City have improved under Pep this year both individually and as a team. Seems tactically astute the main target has to be winning the Champions League a couple of times in the next 5 years. Hard to question his CV and players seem keen to play for him and hard to find a better fit.
     
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    He’s the very definition of a top manager. He manages top teams, top talent and gets them to perform at their top level.

    If you are in control of a pair of eyes, how can you not see the quality of football that City are playing? Surprises me there’s 7 people on here who don’t think he’s a top manager? Be interested to hear your definitions of a top manager.

    Would he be a success at Arsenal, Burnley, Forest Green Rovers, probably but who knows? More importantly, who cares? You wouldn’t tell the CEO of (insert hugely succesful company with big budget) that he’s not a top CEO because he’s never ran a corner shop.
     
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    I’m afraid you’re now being silly. This is a football forum - it’s not really relevant that you can’t stand Mourinho. What is relevant, IMO, is he wins matches, creates winning teams and ....produces some of the dullest teams in the history of the game. Which, In view of the resources he’s had at his disposal, is pretty appalling.

    He’s the anti version of Guardiola which, bearing in mind the footballing histories of United and City, is rather ironic.
     
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    I am a Chelsea fan. I have been for the last 17 years, so it is relevant
     
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    I said LAST year.

    Chelsea are rubbish this year.

    Manchester City have been incredible.

    I don’t think nobody has taken much notice in what I have said...

    Pep Guardiola goes to big names clubs with money and great players already there at the club.. all I’m saying if he’s a great manager, then go somewhere like a mid table team and win trophies then..

    Rafa Benítez is a good example, done great things with big clubs no doubt about it, goes to Newcastle and gets them promoted from the championship
     
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    Not to criticize Benitez as he is a top manager, but he was also in charge when they were relegated.
     
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    That wasn’t his fault? They were already going down
     
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    Benítez took them on a six game unbeaten run... but they still got relegated, it was Steve McLaren who got them sent down.
     
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    Nowhere near. He was great at Porto and Chelsea the first time - a breath of fresh air, had the press eating out of his hand and galvanised the players with his attitude and mentality.

    Now, however, the mask has well and truly slipped. Off the pitch he's unnecessarily hostile, whingey and alienates players to the point where he has to leave after 2/3 years. On the pitch his teams play awful attritional football and simply aim to nullify the top teams because he doesn't know how to compete in an open, proper game of football.
     
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    Because he is a top manager he goes to top clubs. Who naturally have good players and he improves them as individuals and as a team. Time will tell but I don't expect a drop off like Chelsea have this season from city. Not would I expect pep ever to go into a game afraid to play like Chelsea and Conte were yesterday. Benitez if I remember correctly ended up at Newcastle after unsuccessful spells at Inter and Real and his stock had fallen. So I'm not sure what you are getting at. Pep has succeeded everywhere he has gone so will be in demand at top clubs. The other teams at the top of the premore league also have good players and look how far behind they are.
     
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