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    The following letters are taken from an actual incident between a London hotel and one of its guests last year. The hotel ended up submitting the letters to the Sunday Times.

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    Dear Maid,

    Please do not leave any more of those little bars of soap in my bathroom since I have brought my own bath-sized Imperial Leather.

    Please remove the six unopened little bars from the shelf under the medicine chest and another three in the shower soap dish. They are in my way.

    Thank you,
    S. Berman

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    Dear Room 635,

    I am not your regular maid. She will be back tomorrow, Thursday, from her day off.

    I took the 3 hotel soaps out of the shower soap dish as you requested.

    The 6 bars on your shelf I took out of your way and put on top of your Kleenex dispenser in case you should change your mind.

    This leaves only the 3 bars I left today which my instructions from the management are to leave 3 soaps daily.

    I hope this is satisfactory.

    Kathy,
    Relief Maid

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    Dear Maid,

    I hope you are my regular maid.

    Apparently Kathy did not tell you about my note to her concerning the little bars of soap. When I got back to my room this evening, I found you had added 3 little Camays to the shelf under my medicine cabinet.

    I am going to be here in the hotel for two weeks and have brought my own bath-size Imperial Leather, so I won't need those 6 little Camays, which are on the shelf. They are in the way when shaving, brushing teeth etc.

    Please remove them.

    S. Berman

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    Dear Mr Berman,

    The assistant manager, Mr Kensedder, informed me this morning that you called him last evening and said you were unhappy with your maid service.

    I have assigned a new girl to your room. I hope you will accept my apologies for any past inconvenience.

    If you have any future complaints, please contact me so I can give it my personal attention. Call extension 1108 between 8AM and 5PM.

    Thank you.
    Elaine Carmen
    Housekeeper

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    Dear Miss Carmen,

    It is impossible to contact you by phone since I leave the hotel for business at 7:45 AM and don't get back before 5:30 or 6.00 PM. That's the reason I called Mr Kensedder last night. You were already off duty. I only asked Mr Kensedder if he could do anything about those little bars of soap.

    The new maid you assigned me must have thought I was a new check in today, since she left another 3 bars of hotel soap in my medicine cabinet, along with her regular delivery of 3 bars on the bathroom shelf.

    In just 5 days here I have accumulated 24 little bars of soap. Why are you doing this to me?

    S. Berman

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    Dear Mr Berman,

    Your maid, Kathy, has been instructed to stop delivering soap to your room and to remove the extra soaps.

    If I can be of further assistance, please call extension 1108 between 8 AM and 5 PM.

    Thank you,
    Elaine Carmen,
    Housekeeper

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    Dear Mr Kensedder,

    My bath-size Imperial Leather is missing.

    Every bar of soap was taken from my room, including my own bath-size Imperial Leather.

    I came in late last night and had to call the bellhop to bring me 4 little Cashmere Bouquets.

    S. Berman


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    Dear Mr Berman,

    I have informed our housekeeper, Elaine Carmen, of your soap problem.

    I cannot understand why there was no soap in your room since our maids are instructed to leave 3 bars of soap each time they service a room.

    The situation will be rectified immediately.

    Please accept my apologies for the inconvenience.

    Martin L. Kensedder
    Assistant Manager


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    Dear Mrs Carmen,

    Who the hell left 54 little bars of Camay in my room?

    I came in last night and found 54 little bars of soap. I don't want 54 little bars of Camay. I want my one bar of bath-size Imperial Leather.

    Do you realise I have 54 bars of soap in here?

    All I want is my bath-size Imperial Leather.

    Please give me back my bath-size Imperial Leather.

    S. Berman


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    Dear Mr Berman,

    You complained of too much soap in your room, so I had them removed.

    Then you complained to Mr Kensedder that all your soap was missing, so I personally returned them. The 24 Camays which had been taken and the 3 Camays you are supposed to receive daily.

    I don't know anything about the 4 Cashmere Bouquets. Obviously your maid, Kathy, did not know I had returned your soaps, so she also brought 24 Camays plus the 3 daily Camays.

    I don't know where you got the idea this hotel issues bath-size Imperial Leather. I was able to locate some bath-size Ivory which I left in your room.

    Elaine Carmen
    Housekeeper

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    Dear Mrs Carmen,

    Just a short note to bring you up-to-date on my latest soap inventory.

    As of today I possess:

    On the shelf under the medicine cabinet - 18 Camay in 4 stacks of 4 and 1 stack of 2.

    On the Kleenex dispenser - 11 Camay in 2 stacks of 4 and 1 stack of 3.

    On the bedroom dresser - 1 stack of 3 Cashmere Bouquet, 1 stack of 4 hotel-size Ivory, and 8 Camay in 2 stacks of 4.

    Inside the medicine cabinet - 14 Camay in 3 stacks of 4 and 1 stack of 2.

    In the shower soap dish - 6 Camay, very moist.

    On the northeast corner of the tub - 1 Cashmere Bouquet, slightly used.

    On the northwest corner of the tub - 6 Camays in 2 stacks of 3.

    Please ask Kathy when she services my room to make sure the stacks are neatly piled and dusted. Also, please advise her that stacks of more than 4 have a tendency to tip.

    May I suggest that my bedroom window sill is not in use and will make an excellent spot for future soap deliveries.

    One more item, I have purchased another bar of bath-size Imperial Leather, which I am keeping in the hotel vault in order to avoid further mis-understandings.

    S. Berman
     
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    LOL

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    RE: LOL

    (lol)
     
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    That has brightened my day no end ppmsl - quality

    I hope nobody breaks my happiness and professes that this isn't true..........
     
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    That's wierd. Word fo word, it is exactly the same incident as one that happened and was documented in an email I received in January 2001.

    I keep all my funny emails, and have just found it - took a while though as it was so long ago. (lol)
     
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    A completely different planet to everybody else
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    Yes, it's a very old one, but it's still very funny.
     
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    Not to me, not a farce fan. why the f*** did he not throw the soaps that were in his way into the bin
     
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    Ok Fair enough but these letters are true!!

    <div class="text"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff">Claim:</font>   The state of Michigan threatened local beavers with a $10,000 per day fine for failing to remove their dam.

    <noindex /><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff">Status:</font>   <font face="Arial" color="#ff0000">True.</font> </p>

    </noindex /><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff">Example:</font>   <font face="Arial" color="#0000ff">[Collected on the Internet, 1998]</font> </p>

    <table width="95%" align="center" bgcolor="#000000" border="0"><tbody><tr><td bgcolor="#ffff88"><blockquote><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"><div class="example">
    STATE OF MICHIGAN

    Reply to: GRAND RAPIDS DISTRICT OFFICE STATE OFFICE BUILDING 6TH FLOOR
    350 OTTAWA NW GRAND RAPIDS MI 49503-2341
    JOHN ENGLER, Governor
    DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY
    HOLLISTER BUILDING, PO BOX 30473, LANSING MI 48909-7973
    INTERNET: http://www.deq.state.mi
    RUSSELL J. HARDING, Director </p>

    December 17, 1997 </p>

    CERTIFIED </p>

    Mr. Ryan DeVries 2088 Dagget Pierson, MI 49339 </p>

    Dear Mr. DeVries: </p>

    SUBJECT: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023-1 T11N, R10W, <nobr>Sec. 20,</nobr> Montcalm County </p>

    It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental Quality that there has been recent unauthorized activity on the above referenced parcel of property. You have been certified as the legal landowner and/or contractor who did the following unauthorized activity: </p>

    Construction and maintenance of two wood debris dams across the outlet stream of Spring Pond. A permit must be issued prior to the start of this type of activity. A review of the Department's files show that no permits have been issued. </p>

    Therefore, the Department has determined that this activity is in violation of <nobr>Part 301,</nobr> Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, <nobr>Act 451</nobr> of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws annotated. The Department has been informed that one or both of the dams partially failed during a recent rain event, causing debris dams and flooding at downstream locations. We find that dams of this nature are inherently hazardous and cannot be permitted. The Department therefore orders you to cease and desist all unauthorized activities at this location, and to restore the stream to a free-flow condition by removing all wood and brush forming the dams from the strewn channel. All restoration work shall be completed no later than <nobr>January 31,</nobr> 1998. Please notify this office when the restoration has been completed so that a follow-up site inspection may be scheduled by our staff. Failure to comply with this request, or any further unauthorized activity on the site, may result in this case being referred for elevated enforcement action. We anticipate and would appreciate your full cooperation in this matter. </p>

    Please feel free to contact me at this office if you have any questions. </p>

    Sincerely, </p>

    David L. Price
    District Representative Land and Water Management Division </p></div></font></blockquote>

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    REPLY: </p>

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    Dear Mr. Price:

    Re: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N, R10W, <nobr>Sec 20;</nobr> Montcalm County </p>

    Your certified letter dated 12/17/97 has been handed to me to respond to. You sent out a great deal of carbon copies to a lot of people, but you neglected to include their addresses. You will, therefore, have to send them a copy of my response. </p>

    First of all, <nobr>Mr. Ryan</nobr> DeVries is not the legal landowner and/or contractor at <nobr>2088 Dagget,</nobr> Pierson, Michigan - I am the legal owner and a couple of beavers are in the (State unauthorized) process of constructing and maintaining two wood &quot;debris&quot; dams across the outlet stream of my Spring Pond. While I did not pay for, nor authorize, their dam project, I think they would be highly offended you call their skillful use of natural building materials &quot;debris.&quot; I would like to challenge you to attempt to emulate their dam project any dam time and/or any dam place you choose. I believe I can safely state there is no dam way you could ever match their dam skills, their dam resourcefulness, their dam ingenuity, their dam persistence, their dam determination and/or their dam work ethic. </p>

    As to your dam request the beavers first must fill out a dam permit prior to the start of this type of dam activity, my first dam question to you is: are you trying to discriminate against my Spring Pond Beavers or do you require all dam beavers throughout this State to conform to said dam request? If you are not discriminating against these particular beavers, please send me completed copies of all those other applicable beaver dam permits. Perhaps we will see if there really is a dam violation of <nobr>Part 301,</nobr> Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, <nobr>Act 451</nobr> of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws annotated. </p>

    My first concern is - aren't the dam beavers entitled to dam legal representation? The Spring Pond Beavers are financially destitute and are unable to pay for said dam representation - so the State will have to provide them with a dam lawyer. The Department's dam concern that either one or both of the dams failed during a recent rain event causing dam flooding is proof we should leave the dam Spring Pond Beavers alone rather than harassing them and calling them dam names. If you want the dam stream &quot;restored&quot; to a dam free-flow condition - contact the dam beavers - but if you are going to arrest them (they obviously did not pay any dam attention to your dam letter-being unable to read English) - be sure you read them their dam Miranda rights first. </p>

    As for me, I am not going to cause more dam flooding or dam debris jams by interfering with these dam builders. If you want to hurt these dam beavers - be aware I am sending a copy of your dam letter and this response to PETA. If your dam Department seriously finds all dams of this nature inherently hazardous and truly will not permit their existence in this dam State - I seriously hope you are not selectively enforcing this dam policy, or once again both I and the Spring Pond Beavers will scream prejudice! </p>

    In my humble opinion, the Spring Pond Beavers have a right to build their dam unauthorized dams as long as the sky is blue, the grass is green, and water flows downstream. They have more dam right than I to live and enjoy Spring Pond. So, as far as I and the beavers are concerned, this dam case can be referred for more dam elevated enforcement action now. Why wait until 1/31/98? The Spring Pond Beavers may be under the dam ice then, and there will be no dam way for you or your dam staff to contact/harass them then. In conclusion, I would like to bring to your attention a real environmental quality (health) problem: bears are actually defecating in our woods. I definitely believe you should be persecuting the defecating bears and leave the dam beavers alone. If you are going to investigate the beaver dam, watch your step! (The bears are not careful where they dump!) Being unable to comply with your dam request, and being unable to contact you on your dam answering machine, I am sending this response to your dam office. </p>

    Sincerely,
    Stephen L. Tvedten </p></div></font></blockquote>

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    <font face="Arial" color="#0000ff">Origins:</font>   In<script language="JavaScript" src="../../styles/humorsky.js"></script> <table cellspacing="12" align="right"><tbody><tr><td></td></tr></tbody></table>July 1997, one of Stephen Tvedten's neighbors noticed flooding on his property and traced it back to a dam on Tvedten's stream. He complained to the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ) on <nobr>July 28.</nobr> </p>

    Five months later, the agency responded with a letter to the offending land owner. The letter, from David Price, a [​IMG] local Michigan DEQ official, was blunt. The &quot;construction and maintenance of two wood debris dams across the outlet stream of Spring Pond&quot; was &quot;unauthorized&quot; because &quot;a permit must be issued prior to the start of this type of activity.&quot; The letter ordered Stephen Tvedten, the land owner, to &quot;cease and desist&quot; under penalty of &quot;elevated enforcement action.&quot; </p>

    Mr. Tvedten responded to the Michigan DEQ's demand with the now widely-circulated &quot;dam letter,&quot; in which he pointed out that the &quot;debris dams&quot; he had been ordered to remove because they were constructed without permission from the state of Michigan were actually built by beavers. The DEQ later claimed they were fully aware the &quot;debris dams&quot; were beaver dams; the issue, they said, was that the beavers who built them had long since abandoned the dams, but <nobr>Mr. Tvedten</nobr> had been continuing to maintain and even build up the dams himself: </p>

    <blockquote><font face="Verdana" size="-1"><div class="example">The letter concerned an enforcement action directed to a tenant on property surrounding Spring Pond, which is located in Pierson Township, Montcalm County, Michigan. The tenant was observed by the downstream complainant, and has since admitted to the complainant, that he artificially built up, and maintained two abandoned beaver dams on the discharge end of the natural pond. Such an activity falls under the jurisdiction of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resources and Environmental Protection Act, 1194 PA 451, as amended. It is the Department's position that in the absence of any threat to public welfare, beaver dams should be left in their natural state, that being either actively maintained or abandoned by beaver.

    The Department conducted an on-site inspection of the dams in August of 1997, accompanied by a Department of Natural Resources fisheries biologist, the Pierson Township Supervisor and the complainant. The tenant's actions, and a threat to the welfare of the downstream complainant prompted our correspondence of December 1997, instructing the tenant to cease and desist all illegal activity and to restore the stream to its prior condition. The owner of the property took issue with our action, and responded with his own version of the situation. It was this correspondence that has been circulating in the internet. </p>

    Luis Saldivia
    Grand Rapids District Supervisor
    Land and Water Management Division
    616-356-0208 </p></div></font></blockquote>

    For his part, Mr. Tvedten claimed that the dams had been &quot;abandoned&quot; because a neighbor had killed the beavers (then filed a complaint with the state because he was concerned that the untended dams would break apart and enter his property) and that no one but the beavers had ever maintained them. And contemporaneous accounts of the brouhaha quoted a Michigan DEQ spokesman as saying the agency hadn't performed an inspection before firing off their December 1997 letter to <nobr>Mr. Tvedten:</nobr> </p>

    <blockquote><font face="Verdana" size="-1"><div class="example">Ken Silfven, public information officer at the state Department of Environmental Quality, said <nobr>that . . .</nobr> the account was correct. He hastened to note, however, that the case was prompted by a complaint from a neighbor who was concerned about flooding caused by the dams.

    The department dropped its investigation after an inspection by a DEQ employee. </p>

    &quot;It probably would have been a good idea to do the inspection before we sent the notice,&quot; Silfven said. </p></div></font></blockquote>

    After some wrangling the agency ultimately dropped the issue, but not before Stephen Tvedten found an inventive way of quickly pointing out both how ludicrous and humorous the situation was. In a way dusty legal language never could, such a letter serves to drive home the silliness of Michigan DEQ's intractable posturing. The beavers are likely still ignorant of how close they came to being fined $10,000 a day for dam living expenses. </p>

    Barbara &quot;in Michigan, transforming from guardian of the law to giardia of it just took a touch of beaver fever&quot; Mikkelson </p>

    <font face="Arial" color="#0000ff">Last updated:</font>   5 August 2002 </p></div>
     

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