Question - re prostitutes, sex workers, whatever

Yes you are right

In this crazy mixed up world of suing someone because the coffee was to hot and you spilt it on yourself, it's no longer the person that does the crime that's responsible for their actions it's always someone elses fault

If they hadn't made the coffee so hot I wouldn't have 3rd degree burns when I tipped it down myself

If I hadn't seen the big plasma screen through their living room window I'd never have thought have stealing it

If I hadn't had such a tough childhood I wouldn't be such a lovely person

Lets all hug a hoodie. The girls had it coming to them.

The person who kills someone is to blame. Quite obviously.

 

RE: Had to giggle at the Daily Mail

I expected a lot of coverage but some of it's just daft. It's worth maybe 20 minutes of in depth coverage but Sky News are showing it constantly.

 

RE: I'm right?

and you still haven't said who you think it to blame.

 

"usually through no fault of their own"

Okay ... some of those subject to people trafficing from other countries are forced into it but aren't most doing it out of choice to fund drug habits?

Not saying that means they deserve to die but seems odd to pencil them as helplesslessly forced into prostitution.

 

RE: Had to giggle at the Daily Mail

Takes away from the Diana inquest thank fck.

 

RE: I'm right?

My post did not set out to apportion blame, I simply asked what people thought.</p>

You are behaving as if i have a pre-determined opinion that is at odds with everybody else - and can smell blood.</p>

 

The killer needs catching - but really,who is ultimately to blame?

The killer!

Whilst soliciting may be illegal that does not give someone the right or reason to murder a prostitute.

 

RE: "usually through no fault of their own"

what i meant was that I don't think that there is one prostitute working the street who does it for job satisfaction

i think it is fair to say, the majority are doing it to fund a drug habit. OK , you can argue that they made a "choice" to take drugs but it's not as simple as that - especially when heroin is involved, in my opinion.

lots of people make wrong choices in life but they don't get punished for it by some unscrupulous fecker getting them hooked on drugs and forcing them to work the streets to pay for their habit.

 

RE: Had to giggle at the Daily Mail

No, the Express are still leading on that aren't they?

 

Am I? where?

I simply asked what your thoughts are. I presume you have some otherwise you wouldn't have posted. If you don't have any opinion or don't want to give it fair enough.

 

How do you think is to blame then?

 

RE: Had to giggle at the Daily Mail

They have been for 10 years...............

 

or even "Who do you think is to blame then?"

 

RE: "usually through no fault of their own"

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one then mate. Perhaps I see things too black and white but I would have said exactly as you anticipated ... they made the choice to take the drugs in the first place.

As daft as it sounds it does lend some argument towards legalising brothels. Would these murders have taken place in Amsterdam? There these women would have been in 'safe' surroundings rather than having to get into a strangers car etc,etc.

Tragic, but as cold as it makes me sound I can appreciate the point made that they do place themselves into a position of danger when opting to enter into prostitution. Doesn't make the murders in any way 'less wrong' I know.

 

There is only one person to blame and that is the killer.

Anyway, why is prostitution illegal and isn't it about time that it was legalised?

 

absolutely mate

i think prostitution should be legalised - without a shadow of a doubt. the benefits far outweigh the negatives. the worry would be that street prostitution would still exist - but the money from taxes could be well spent on drug rehabilitation which is at the root of the problem. possibly a bit naive, but thats what i think.

 

RE: "usually through no fault of their own"

There is still illegal prostitution in Amsterdam. In the red light district the prostitutes using the booths have to be licensed and have regular health checks etc, but there are still prostitutes that work the streets and there is a zero tolerance by the police on these.

Would the murders still have taken place? Well that all depends on the motive, if the motive is of having a grudge against prostitutes then likely not if he couldn't pick any up, however it's more likely that it's a grudge against women and prostitutes are being targeted because it's easier to take them from the street, they are willing to get into a car with a stranger and nobody gives it a 2nd look, but if this continues then it's likely, as with the Yorkshire Ripper, that the killer will eventually select a woman who is not a prostitute.

 

Fancy a change of career Cazi?!

 

Making it legal will make it harder for the people who traffic people into the country, the pimps and the most important, improve the safety for these women.
It works in other countries, so could do here.

 

It also will improve the health of the women and would mean that a licenced industry could have compulsary health checks for the workers.