Rachel Riley

Of course it’s a fake, and of course its a demonstration of her views on Corbyn. Some would find her actions vitriolic, some may agree with her. Of course her jewish background os the issue - its what inspired her to challenge antisemitism in the labour party in the first place for which she’s received threats and abuse. As for documented comments about Corbyns history ive referred to plenty of examples written off by many on here as tory lies, right wing press, just didnt happen. So I’d counter your comment about burying my head in the sand as its like the pot calling the kettle. The actions of Riley are an attack on Corbyn, thats obvious, no twisting from me required. I dont like the man, his politics, his history, his vision for our country. I’ll continue to post as such until he’s gone. It’s a free country and I’m as entitled to air my views as you are.

 

You are but you are endorsing the Tory party by doing so, so be honest that you'd prefer 5 more years of them, and that says it all.

 

A minor point, but just to add re: Man Utd.
Riley is an Old Trafford season ticket holder whose father comes from Salford. I don't know where she lives, but as Countdown is produced in Manchester I'd assume she spends a fair bit of time in the area. The born in Kent thing, though true, feels like a red herring.

 

Do you think she did it for money?

 

I don’t ever recall endorsing the tories DP, I don’t like Corbyn,it doesn’t automatically make me a fan of Boris either.

 

And yet you’ve never called out a Tory lie or their obvious islamophobia. Yet you’ve posted anti Corbyn rhetoric repeatedly.

you can’t pretend you’re just a beacon of truth when you’re just posting anti labour nonsense, often lies.

 

Donny and his usual dig. How unexpected !! I'll put this in big letters for you if you like old chap, I don't like labour ( who I've previously supported) in it's current guise and under it's current leadership. This doesn't mean that I do like the conservatives ( who I've never supported) or it's current leadership. I don't post about the tories as there's enough on here that do, I focus on Labour as I'm frustrated at their lurch to the far left which renders them un-electable and I get frustrated by those who choose to ignore the facts about Corbyn and write them off as tory lies.

As for anti labour nonsense and lies thank you for proving my point about those who chose to bury their heads in the sand.I expected no less

 

Why is antisemitism classed as racist yet Islamophobia isn't ?

 

Excellent response, well said.

 

Where religion is used as a proxy for race then it's racism. Pure and simple.For me they can both be forms of racism.

 

Is this in York? Ark. When I'm in York I always make a pilgrimage to Cliffords Tower, the site of a massacre of Yorkshire Jews by the Barons and landowners of surrounding area.
I have been disappointed by the reluctance of York council to create a noticeable memorial to it. Also, English heritage plans in the past for the Tower haven't included any reference to it.
The Normans introduced a lot of Jewish people to the UK in the 11th and 12th century, to help set up the Usury (revenue). They settled and assimilated into British life,they helped fund public buildings. Aaron of Lincoln funded 6 major ecclesiastical buildings in the 12th century.
It is thought that Palestinian/Isreali jews were part of the original diaspora that was part of the Roman empire. You will sometimes come across old Synagogues in the unlikeist of places.
A permanent memorial in York would sit nicely with the history of a great city and it's story.

 

Of course you are entitled to air your views. I hope no one suggests otherwise. As long as you debate in a reasoned manner I have no problems whatsoever. However, I honestly don't think I'm a pot calling the kettle... I have some misgivings about Corbyn myself and have stated them previously. If Corbyn has done something reprehensible then he deserves to be called to account. I just don't think he has though and his history is far more moral, considered, balanced and decent compared to many people who call him out for his actions. In my considered opinion.
As to your Ms Riley comments I believe you are still missing the point. For example, when you say 'some may agree' with her actions I cannot see why any rational, truth seeking person would agree to her doctoring photographs to misinform the viewer. And as for it being her Jewish background it's not really is it? She didn't have to fake the photograph just because she's Jewish. She simply didnt. She could have combatted anti-semitism with factual, strong arguments. She didnt though. Her Jewish background does not excuse her lying and deceiving and I say that as a strong supporter of her Jewish heritage.The Jewish people have had to put up with utter crap for centuries but I say again, just because she herself is Jewish does not excuse her dishonesty. It's her that is calling the kettle black not me.

 

Can you please spell the word its correctly?

 

I'm absolutely not condoning her actions at all. Did she even clock what was on the sign or did she just see an image of Corbyn that had a board with enough whitespace on it to get her own message on? If she's on countdown there is some intelligence there surely... I don't see she was trying to deceive it was Corbyns language, she just edited it for her own ends.

Stupid and misguided, but I cant see she was trying to pass it off as being original... unless she made comments to the contrary which ive not seen of course.

 

What if Paul Conway had done it though?

 

I understood it slightly differently, having sought refuge in Cliffords Tower from the baying mob outside the jews therein decided to commit suicide rather than be slaughtered by those banging on the gates. Horrific whichever way it happened.
I did read that there was some sort of visitors centre planned but there were many objections to it's design so I don't know how it fared.

 

You're right. Thank you for pointing that out.

 

More faces than the town hall clock.