RIP Avicili

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  1. Con

    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    He dunt write songs. He samples other people's.
     
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    Dalestykes Well-Known Member

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    No CT. it’s just an opinion. You’ve been on the wrong side of a few comments in the past so u should recognise it.
     
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    Dalestykes Well-Known Member

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    Ooh that’s a bit harsh. But if you’d like to name one good track by any of them that would be interesting.
     
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    Bohemian Rhapsody tends to win every poll ever done for best song. But its all opinions. Yours is wrong though.
     
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    He was called Avicii, not Avicili.

    I can appreciate what he did, but he's not even the best in his genre, never mind being miles better than the likes of Beatles etc.

    Yes sales don't necessarily equate to quality, but I think you're in the minority here. He's not significantly changed the face of that genre of music even to warrant the kind of claims being bandied about on this thread.
     
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    Ah right, yep there's far more skill in nicking other folk's tunes and linking together on a computer, than there was in writing a full symphony for a 70 piece orchestra that has stood the test of time for over 200 years, with nowt but a quill pen and a piece of parchment paper.
     
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    Now come on. You’ve pulling my chain now aren’t you. That track is by some distance the worst thing ever committed to vinyl and regularly appears in the ‘worst ‘ lists. It is the Leeds Utd of pop songs - vastly overrated and full of its own importance.
    Now I have to go. I’m in a pub and my Girlfriend is getting a bit shirty. She tends to share the options of most of you on here, but she’s rarely right!
     
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    Yeah you're right. Much worse than the birdie song. Or "Grandma We Love You"
     
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    I'm no Queen fan, but Seven Seas of Rhye is an absolute belter...
     
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    Are you of the impression that I think sampling other people's songs is a talent? If so you could not be more wrong.
     
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    Depends how it's done. Sampling well known hooks of people's stuff and just looping it using a computer can be done by anyone with a vague musical ear. See Vanilla Ice. Taking small samples and building them together into new and original songs is no different to writing a song with traditional instruments. Portishead use samples galore, and I'd be surprised to meet anyone who accused them of lacking in talent. Live sampling and cutting of parts of different songs is a different kettle of fish entirely. I'm not a huge fan of hip hop, but the skill of hip hop DJ's cutting in and out of very precise points on a piece of vinyl and looping manually is something to behold. No cue points, no digital looping.

    As for producing electronic music just being the using of samples, again you're wrong. A fair number of artists do this, but just as many are classically trained musicians. Even if club music is not your bag, Xpander by Sasha or Flaming June by BT are clearly modern day classical music, following the same principles as any other technically correct compositions. The fact that they and many other popular electronic tracks are regularly reproduced by classical orchestras, and in some cases sound as good and as technically complex as Tchaikovsky or Prokofiev tells you all that you need to know.
     
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