[QUOTE="shenk1, I didn’t say I disagreed,I don’t, I was just pointing out that having done one thing you can hardly expect the opposition to do something else. Personally I’d like to see the back of all of the inept fking shower, got to be the worst bunch on all sides ever!
July. The Tories have an election for Leader. Johnson wins. July. Parliament confirms Johnson as PM Oct. The UK leaves the EU with ‘no deal’. Nov/Dec. GE called with the Conservatives getting a small majority (primarily because Labour’s policy on Brexit is too nuanced. I.e. unclear. 2020-2024. The Country goes to hell in a handcart though the break up of the UK as a concept proves to be a long term benefit.
I'm a lifelong Labour voter (until the EU elections last month), and I will never vote Labour again if their manifesto policy is to negotiate a Labour Brexit. If their policy is to have a public vote on the deal (any deal), then I will probably vote for them. They can campaign to leave in that public vote if they want, but ensuring that any deal has public support is paramount.
That is the policy . To negotiate a deal with the EU then put it back to the people . It’s in the manifesto .
Anyone who says a No Deal Brexit would be a disaster willing or able to back this up with hard facts, not waffle, about life after No Deal.
The people who think it will be a disaster are experts in their chosen field; economists, business leaders etc. The ones who think it will be fine are, on the whole, those who stand to financially gain from it. I know who my money is on.
Marlon...you're rarely, if ever, wrong about Labour Party issues, so perhaps I just can't find it...but I can't see anything in Labour's last manifesto about negotiating a deal and putting it back to the people.
Not sure if it was in the manifesto, but it was certainly voted for and put into policy at conference.
I would be very grateful if you could let me know if you ever get an answer to that question. Two years i’ve Been trying to get one. I’ve always assumed there isn’t an answer because it’ doesn’t exist. But then again it is quite difficult to get exercised at what are essentially a set of moderate social democratic policies. As I say, let me know. Thanks.
It’s a new entry and some are interpreting to suit but the overall policy is to negotiate a deal then put it back to the people with remain on the ballot. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-48099901
But with the greatest of respect, Corbyn's interpretation of this is to stress he is pushing for a general election. As he will never accept that that quest has reached an end, he can defer any talk of a referendum indefinitely. He doesn't rule it out but he will never personally do anything to bring it about. It's a huge con to pretend he accepts the policy of his party while doing nothing to advance it. Ultimately he will fail because there will come a point when the sensible majority of moderate Labour MP's bale out. Meanwhile, the Tories proceed unchallenged.
I think the vast majority of people would say that they couldn't give a toss. Personally, if we did have one it would only provide that odious git Farage yet more air time on TV and radio which would wind me up beyond endurance.