The continued stick for the previous ownership

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  1. churtonred

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    It's always easy to sit on the sidelines and criticise when you don't have to carry the can. Some on here make it their raison d'etre.
    To run a club at Championship level without huge funds is a massive ask. PC got a lot wrong, quite a bit right but as far as I'm aware always did his best.
     
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    You see I know someone who asked about getting involved 3 times so forgive me a little. Plus I often heard several unsavoury stories

    All academic now of course so there we have it
     
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    Problem with that is you are only getting one side of story that someone wants to tell you. Unless you would care to elaborate further.

    I don’t think any buyer saw any potential in us until they saw a self sufficient club with money from selling John Stones & Alfie Mawson and with a very healthy balance compared to the majority of other football clubs.
     
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    We have been a selling club all our history. Nothing has changed as yet. The attitude of the new owners remains to be seen - hopefully they will do a Wolverhampton Wanderers.
     
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    Record season ticket sales reflect a vote of confidence in the club there are a number of Championship clubs in a worse position off the pitch but supporters are entitled to be disappointed with the last 16 months after expectation levels were raised in the first half of last season.
     
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    And just maybe the great man thought they were not the right people for our club Rip Patrick
     
  7. Mrs

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    All those managers sacked, how many in 10 years or so, and now we all laugh at Leeds.
     
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    Davey, Hill, Flicker, Wilson are the 4 that have been sacked in 10 years. That's compared to Leeds' 15 managers sacked.
    I don't know what frustrations from real life you're taking out through (sometimes xenophobic) tirades on here today, but it's quite nice out maybe go for a walk.
     
  9. JLWBigLil

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    Like when we lost Machin, Anderson, Wilson, Hendrie, Bassett, Spackman & Parkin from 1993 to 2002?
     
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    Wasn’t Robins effectively sacked?
     
  11. DusThaNoIII

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    Depends on interpretation, 'mutual resignation' was my understanding. I don't think he would have been asked to leave had he wanted to stay.
     
  12. Mrs

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    Very much like,
     
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    To be honest, old mate, I often wonder if the reason we've gone through so many managers over the past 25 years (under both Mr Dennis & Mr Cryne) is just as much to do with poor quality appointments as it is with not giving the incumbents much time in the job.
     
  14. Mrs

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    Xenophobic cos I used the word foreign, reightio.
     
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    Far more successful era though.
     
  16. DusThaNoIII

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    4 in 10 years? I wonder what the average is but if we're taking into account the last 10 years, as was mentioned, I'd guess that's well below average. Don't stop the facts cloud your opinions mind, @MrsHallsToffeerolls
     
  17. Mrs

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    That would be 10 years from taking over, not the last 10, when last 2 managers we have received money for em.
     
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    Never put last in the original post of mine, at one point it was often stated how many managers we had gone through in 10 years, not just the fans saying it but the media too.
     
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    Really? Performing in the second tier in front of attendances of less than 4000? Two relegations? One Administration? Did John Dennis have to deal with a club in the Second Division, or the Third? Did John Dennis have to sort out a club already in Administration? Did John Dennis have to immediately pay off a loan to the the Sterling Consortium? A company that refused to give the club any additional time to the deadline and claimed it would get it's money even if meant closing the club down? "It's nothing personal, just business" they claimed.
    And all that was a 'far' more successful period? Without doubt, the period had great success, but it also witnessed abject failure, too
    We had some absolutely fantastic times under John Dennis. But he took over a far more stable club than Patrick Cryne. Both men are/were Barnsley fans at heart. Both made mistakes. But to claim, or insinuate, both had to take over and run the club in the same circumstances and that one was a success whilst the other is a failure is simply rewriting history to suit personal agendas.
    For me, both men did an excellent, very difficult job to the best of their abilities and did so far better than I could ever have achieved.
     
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  20. Mrs

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    Dustha gone for a walk? All that rage.
     

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