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Spot on. I know its hard to be objective about your own team but as flicker would say... Wow.

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If that had been down the other end, you'd have been out of your seat screaming for a pen.

 

Spot on pal

 

Because the ref doesn't see it

 

Err no I wouldn't, because in my opinion it wasn't

 

also most fans are partisan therefore just because a section of the crowd screams and shouts doesn't make it any more or less a pen

 

I can see the argument for the sending off, but not the penalty.

He withdrew his leg and in the context of him choosing not to book any of their players its seriously harsh to send him off.

 

The sending off made bugger all difference to the result. The game had already gone by then.

 

Watkins stamped on him, not hard but he stamped on him. Red Card
We were crying out for a penalty for the same incident last week, it was a penalty.
Davis set the wall up then hid behind it and left his side of the goal for them to shoot at. Should have done better. Sometimes you get those fouls, sometimes you don't.
Probably could have booked more players for both sides.

Thought the ref had a decent game to be honest.

 

I thought the difference between last weeks penalty (that we didn't get) and this weeks that forest did was that their player changed his body shape to block Hourihane. His intention was to prevent him from getting the ball, that's a foul and a penalty.

Tonight their player ran into Scowen; his body shape did not change and he couldn't do a thing to avoid a collision. If anything it was obstruction which is an indirect free kick.

That difference in decision making demonstrates the very first point I made in my post.

 

I thought the difference between last weeks penalty (that we didn't get) and this weeks that forest did was that their player changed his body shape to block Hourihane. His intention was to prevent him from getting the ball, that's a foul and a penalty.

Tonight their player ran into Scowen; his body shape did not change and he couldn't do a thing to avoid a collision. If anything it was obstruction which is an indirect free kick.

That difference in decision making demonstrates the very first point I made in my post.

 

"We've beaten ourselves tonight"

Agree totally. The cross for their second goal was due to unbelievably crass closing down by us. Is Hourihane's mind elsewhere?

 

First goal - wasn't a free kick
Fourth goal - foul on Jackson
Fifth goal - wasn't a penalty
Red card wasn't a red card

He gave them everything he possibly could

 

He then lost the guy who crossed for the goal, not a great 60 seconds or so.

 

Overall the referee was poor. Let Forest get away with a number of fouls which should have been bookings. We seem to get very little protection from referees when teams keep kicking us.

However, the red card was correct, and at 2-4 the game was probably over anyway. I think the penalty decision was barmy personally, but opinion seems to be split. Ultimately we lost because we made too many individual errors, because we don't defend well enough as a team, and because despite scoring two good goals we're not clinical enough.

 

Glad I'm not the only one who thought the first wasn't a free kick - he played for it, jackson won the ball without a high foot.

 

Agree with that.

 

Easy to spot the ones who stayed home and watched it on telly... The self righteousness is in the detail...

I thought it was a foul on Scowen for the third. I saw the foul on Marley, but was too busy admiring Patrick's light show, to see his reaction. Can't comment on the pen cos it's too far away for me to judge with my cabbage damage peepers.

We were sloppy and it was a game we otherwise should have easily won. Still, it's nice to get out... Onwards and sideways...

 

The ones who had six camera angles on it and then the ones freezing their knackers off at the game saying "never a foul in a million years" to then get home and say "oh aye it was a penalty looking at it again...." I bet Marley looked a mile offside at the ground