Town centre druggies.....

No one forced them to inject or snort up their noses or smoke drugs

 

A lot if not all of these skag heads got hooked on it in the mid 90s when the heroin boom swept uk... finding a way to get em off it and cut their crime output to feed their habits should be in every ones interest you'd think ..

 

The mind is a complicated object. Hopefully you never have to battle it.

 

The problem I have is that if I catch someone who needs money for drugs breaking into my house where my children sleep, then I would at bare minimum put them in a coma to be on the safe side.
Obviously this would lead to myself being prosecuted which wouldn't have been the case had they stayed out of my family home.

 

When this thread came on I thought they would be some "do gooders" blaming the goverment or illness or whatever poor little lambs, I know people who have grown up with nothing and still have nothing but never turned to drugs. Heroin is a horrible drug not only does it kill it destroys family's, fuels theft puts a strain on the nhs, the prison service and police. Not to mention the illegal money it makes the dealers. And people are comparing it to eating meat.... wow

 

Really recommend drugs land on BBC I player , filmed in Bristol for a year , mental how some people live there lives ,and the amount of cash the dealers can make, Bristol has the most amount of drug addicts out side of London and the crime rate sky high because of it.

 

Cheers to you captain perfect

 

That would’ve made the individuals I see loitering around Grahams Orchard roughly 10 years old if they god hooked in the 90s, that’s before you factor in that addicts often look significantly older than they actually are.

Also, it’s not just heroin that’s an issue in Barnsley, I understand that a significant number are addicted to substances such as Spice, Ketamine, MCAT, etc.

 

Can't be perfect I eat meat and drink.

 

Barnsley Town Centre isn’t very big so the concentration and/ or increase in people sleeping rough, drug users or alleged drugs users, may be more noticible. I suppose it’s all relative really. I is too many though.

 

If drugs were legalised they wouldn't cost any where near the street prices ask an NHS pro how much opiates cost. When I was in hospital having morphine pumped in to me for 23 days I was told it was a very cheap drug.

 

Wiggy himself may well be munching on cold turkey. Hard to tell.

 

Another incredible burn

 

I won't have to battle it cos I not daft enough to take it in first place

 

Maybe so , but id say 90% of em started from that time ... what you say is same story in most cities and towns int North ..
I'm surprised that crystal meth ent kicked off yiteither

watched all 6 short episodes last night ..good programme .. was in Weston super mare weren't it ...

 

Sister in law works at some secure home for down and outs/young wrong uns/ folk who have come out of prison etc and she says the problem with slice is rife........drug workers are now prescribing heroin substitutes to those on spice as it is that addictive.......shocking

 

Wiggy - an addiction is NOT a mental illness.
We can be addicted to all sorts of things - food, sweets, cigarettes, porn(soft!,) football, etc etc -- people with these addictions should not be labelled as having a mental illness.

If the addiction becomes an obsession then maybe it can be termed a mental illness.

By labelling any addiction as an 'illness' we may abrogate responsibility for that addiction and the problems it may cause.
By saying drug addiction is an illness it implies that drug addiction is something that has come our way without us wanting it, something that we can do nothing about.
The reality is different.
Taking drugs is a choice - this is a concept that drug users and their supporters have difficulty with.

 

Yes mate Weston last episode but mainly all about Bristol , well worth a watch

 

Just watched that, makes Bristol look like the Bronx.

 

Hmm. I think you are over simplifying things.
Addiction changes the brain, disturbing the normal hierarchy of needs and desires. So, unlike something like gambling, addiction to drugs is a chronic brain disorder and not simply a behaviour problem involving alcohol, drugs, gambling or sex.
It is a completely different discussion to argue why people start in the first place. It is not fair to say they are "weak willed" etc. That is like telling someone suffering from depression to "snap out of it".

Most agree that Socio Economic reasons are behind why most people start. Personally, given that rich and poor are impacted by drug taking I think that poverty is not the biggest reason. For me iI believe it is Peer pressure. In gang culture people often fall into two categories:
1 Those who want to 'fit in' and, often, against their will or better judgement, join in and participate in activities.
2 Those forced to join street gangs due to the 'you are either in or out' and 'for us or against us' mentality. Refusing to join is like painting a target on your back and dangerous.

Many gang related activities involve drugs either taking , dealing or both. As we know, once you start on highly addictive Class A drugs you rapidly end up leaving the 'I can take it or leave it' period and end up in an a rapidly increasing downward spiral. Those 'professionals' who snort cocaine are also susceptible to peer pressure. They are often educated but over confidence and arrogance breeds contempt and encourages the "I can handle it and stop any time I want" mentality right up until it is too late. Then , in some but not all, cases the downward spiral kicks in leading to dis-integration of family relationships, and criminal activity to feed the habit .
No idea what the answer is but don't believe legalising is the answer, nor stiffer sentencing. Not do I believe eliminating poverty is the answer. Total elimination of the supply would but that is pretty impossible. Oh! and comparing drug abuse as being on par with chocolate and meat eating as a threat to society is one of JCs more risible comments (albeit methane output from cow's bottoms is an issue ) Not all meat is though. Sheep / lamb raised on land (usually areas unsuitable for arable farming) is still far and away the most efficient way of turning cellulose (grass) which is indigestible to humans into protei