There wasn`t one, all they wanted to do was Execute him, something that is against the law in this Country!! We as supposed World Leaders are doing exactly the same as the people we are decrying ! He should have been brought in and tried for war Crimes etc, just like the Serbs have been, in killing him he has become a martryr to his cause, putting him on trial would have prevented him becoming so. Why is it OK for us to kill people and not for them to do so ? Why is killing people the answer to stopping people getting killed ? Its a self fulfilling prophecy !!
Summary execution when committed by these extremists is shouted about from the roof tops. It's wrong on every level. Then "we" do the same and it's all good? Like I said before, the responsibility that comes with freedom isn't easy.
It's a tricky one to call Mario. Whilst I don't think that anyone is going to miss Jihadi John, sanctioning extra judicial killings opens up a very dangerous can of worms. I firmly believe that everyone should stand trial if accused of something, both from the point of view of the defendant's right to a fair legal process no matter how apparently clear their guilt and the severity of the crimes they are accused of, and for the prosecution / state to serve justice in the correct manner. In this particular case, I agree with you that he had to be stopped by one means or another, so in this respect he is probably better off dead than alive. However, he has now been made into a martyr, which is something that should be avoided at all costs. In addition to this, alive he MAY have been able to provide the security forces with certain intelligence that has now been lost (I stress the word "may" here). On the other hand, whether it would actually have been practical and realistic to single him out, arrest him and repatriate him is debatable to say the least.
I'd vote for a lot of his policies, JLWBL. Unfortuantely I don't think a sufficient number of the wider electorate would. And I'd sooner see a watered-down Labour man in power than Labour have a true socialist leader who gets nowhere near power. Here's the mad thing though - in order for you to vote for him you'd have to vote for Major Dan, who has said he'll leave the party if JC carries his policies through! The mad world of politics, eh?
You gave me the fact larger countries take more refugees which is obvious. And then offererd a population fact when I never mentioned population. Population per Sq mile would be more appropriate
Yes, I use the service. I just object to be called a 'moron with no brain' with regards to who I'd prefer to run this country by someone who's chosen not to live in it.
I didn't specifically mention you, Loko can testify that this is not classed as an insult, this through previously having it being insinuated that I'm into animals by Extremely Northern who probably votes for Corbyn as well as he has that base mentality. So basically we can all use offensive language without the fear of reprisals. Personally I wouldn't post my voting preference on here anyway. All you know is that I'm not a moron.
So you can draw a comparison between a targeted drone killing of a maniac with the decapitation of hostages? He was spared the terror of living his last few days knowing he was going to be executed in an appalling and brutal way, defenceless, on his knees in the desert. Killing is never a pleasant option but there are times when it has to be done and in the case of Emwazi it was absolutely the right thing to do.
Two points. Point one. The original question was would anyone actually vote for Corbyn and I said I would (even though, apparently, it makes me a moron!). Point two. My MP is Angela Smith, not Dan Jarvis.
Good points MT. In respect of the 'making him a martyr' issue I honestly believe that the battle with extremism is so difficult that sparing this maniac and trying to find and arrest him at some point had to be judged against what he would have carried on doing had he not been killed. Would the killing of him have made the battle with extremism be made any more difficult because a small group now see him as a martyr? The key point you make is 'repatriation' and who would have tried him; would he have had any claim to be sent back to the UK. Personally I can see the counter arguments to his execution but on the balance of facts I think the government got it right and it is something I would have done had I been in the position to make the decision.
My mistake, JLWBL. I was going by 'Location: Dodworth', which I think is in Barnsley Central. Presume you're nearer the Penistone end? Anyway, you'll need to move to Islington North to vote for him! Depressing isn't it though when you get people using the term 'moron' about anyone who has a different view from themselves?
Dodworth's always been part of the Penistone constituency and you're right, I WOULD have to live in Islington! Actually, it makes me laugh when a small minority of folk who've moved away from the town see fit to criticise those of us who wanted to stay, especially when discussing politics or intelligence. Obviously, this doesn't apply to everyone who leaves.