Would anyone actually vote for corbyn

Even if we take away all the moral implications of just going out and killing people, however horrible they may be, one of the reasons we have a trial is to establish if we've got the right man. A drone strike requires intelligence from on the ground about where this son of a bitch was hiding. Intelligence from places like Syria and Iraq can be sketchy at best. We went to war in Iraq on the basis that our intelligence said there were WMDs, and we all know how accurate that intelligence turned out to be. During that war intelligence gave coordinates of where rebel fighters were hiding. Smart missiles from planes and from the ground took these places out. They hit their targets dead centre. But on a number of occasions it turned out the intelligence was wrong and we blew up a load of civilians. Collateral damage some may argue and unavoidable in a war. Things is, this war in Syria, if that's what it is, is something that a huge percentage of this country simply don't want.

When the news of this nutter's death first made the news, they were pretty sure they'd got him. I think I read a quote from an American military official that said they were 99% certain. I don't want us to be targetting people to kill anyway, it's against our laws for a start, but if we are then we've got to be 100% certain we've go the right guy and I don't know how you can do that in a place as chaotic as Syria. ISIS have since confirmed his death, so the chances are on this occasion they probably got it right. They might not next time. They might kill the wrong ISIS member, so many people would argue there's no harm done. But they might kill a civilian or someone who has taken up arms against ISIS.

I don't know a better way of radicalising people than causing unjust deaths. And I don't know a better argument to get radicalised people to commit atrocities than pointing at the UK and US government and giving examples of how they have gone out and murdered people. These are the arguments that are used by already radicalised people to get others to join them and to convince them to do terrible things. It's not just that I morally object to us intentionally murdering people, it's that when we lose our morality and use questionable tactics it makes all of us far less safe and targets for revenge attacks.

 

Utter tripe

 

Absolutely.

The Tories are shafting this country, selling it to the highest bidder.

Our trains are foreign owned.
Our power companies are foreign owned.
Massive amounts of the UK real estate is now in foreign ownership.
The NHS is being run down and given away to foreign owned companies.
Our schools are being privatised and given away to Tory party donors.

All these companies and individuals and others like Amazon, Google, Facebook to name but a few are being allowed to get away with paying almost zero tax.

Government policy is more influenced by Rupert Murdoch than by the general electorate.

The Tories are selling or giving away this country and yet, because the media are in on it, they peddle lies and half truths to the gullible to make them fear the opposition, be it Corbyn, Milliband or anyone else who would be elected to run the Labour Party.

Yet, because of these lies you think that Corbyn hates this country, they sow fear to make you vote to keep the elite in power, when what you have to fear most are the Tories.

 

It would be nice to see articles and comments differentiate between genuine refugees and economic migrants.

It would be also nice to hear someone in a position of power turn round and say first things first... we look after our own. Like the c9000 ex servicemen living between the streets and hostels.

 

You win.

I mean, with a debating level of this quality none of us can hope to prevail against this level of persuasiveness.

You are almost on a par with Donald Trump.

 

I think it's possible to do both, in fact, it should be our duty to do both.

But this government want to do neither.

 

Re: the Tories must be thanking their Gods for Corbyn

Seriously, you believe anything written in a 'newspaper'?

The newspapers have a vested interest in the Tories staying in power.

 

I don't know about anyone else, but this debating masterclass has convinced me.

 

you flatter me sir.

But that's sufficient to be said about drivel like that, don't give it any more credence by debating.

 

Nah, you were better off just shouting offensive remarks, now you've written more than three words you've exposed your lack of credibility.

 

it's Dubya Tyke not Dubai , George

 

I would.

 

Well said Rosco!

 

I'd vote for him, because I agree with some, not all, of his policies, but his world view is more aligned to mine in that he believes in a kinder society, one where we don't think that everyone claiming benefits is automatically a scrounger and where we try to solve differences first before taking military action as a final resort.

The fact that you've chosen to live in a racist society based on caste and where you don't have to pay any tax to support a welfare system for the poorer members of society tells me you don't share the same view - I have no doubt that you'd vote for either the Conservatives or someone even further to the right back in the UK as they no doubt fit in with your world view, that's fair enough, I respect that, though I don't agree with you.

Am I a moron?

 

I will.

 

You should have done a Poll Redrum! Looks like you may have got a surprise! For too long "Socialists" have voted Labour or to a lesser extent "Green" as a 'best fit' option. Corbyn is the 'best fit' we have had for a long time.

 

Me. I would/will.

 

He clearly believes in a high inflation High unemployment society were ambition is frowned upon

 

You see I think JC would fix that issue

 

Only Corbins constituants would be able to vote for Corbin. So if your Labour candidate is not part of the Corbin love in then where does the vote lie?