Skegby mate. This has been done a thousand times on here. The pits were closed but managed properly with the vast majority of employees going into another job. Whereas the Tories destroyed entire communities by closing pits and not putting people into other employment. They robbed people of jobs and left them to rot.
And so has everything else surrounding the miners strike and politics in general but it does stop people post 10 times a day about the same stuff PS I did experience the strike but I've learnt you can't change the past so I move on
You can’t change the past but you can stop similar happening again . You initial post was a dig at labour so your not that squeaky clean .
Bit childish on your side that to be honest . You can say what you want about Labour Party but don’t throw toys out when you’re challenged and idiot stuff like this.
You don't like hearing things that don't sit easily with you: they don't with me either. However I don't call people out suggesting they have an agenda or are 'lying' either. I clearly pointed out the other day to you where my loyalties lay. When i was younger i was very militant but age and common sense has tempered that somewhat. I can now see a tory minister on tv without wanting to smash his face in: i've grown up. So just to re-iterate to you, i have long moved to the centre but remain within, always will. I work the wards in the nhs and more than the average person see on a daily basis the wrack and ruin the tory government's have brought upon us. My elderly parents live in a 'fellow' EU country and enjoy the reciprocal benefits of doing so (excellent free healthcare through the greek nhs) and despite this being a personal factor i have no issue with the EU whatsoever. My ex partner was involved through our council with the funding we got through objective 1 in the 90s. The metaphorical EU flag flies high all over our town and its ex-mining communities. None of this funding would have been remotely forthcoming from any tory government. So there you have it. Things happen that we don't like and i find it highly offensive that because something doesn't fit cosily in your agenda then you question mine.
Crikey the irony in your post is breathtaking . I don’t like this or that because I’ve questioned you? What you vote or why is up to you but if you post things suggesting all miners were thieves then expect to get challenged . How you see the world is relative to you but if you advertise your views then people are permitted to reply , I post my views and as your post is implying get told I don’t like it . It doesn’t matter whether I like it or not tbh and for people to suggest I don’t like what they post is more the fact they don’t like what i put imo. I find it highly offensive too that your post suggests all miners and their communities are thieves and would do down a shopkeeper in a mining community . Well I challenged that and I would bet there would be far more stories of the reverse . I havnt questioned your political status or your wives ive just challenged the story’s you’ve put out .
Please quote where I've stated "all miners are thieves"? Ridiculous statement there from you. Some miners and some people stayed away after the strike and didn't pay what they owed. I never remotely intimated the majority did that. Like I said to you on a previous post (which you didn't respond to by the way), the menace that was Red Kestrel said something along similar lines to me so I privately offered him names. He knew some of them and conceded what I had said was true despite his on-line denial. I'll message mum and ask her too for her recollections if you like and pm you the reply?
The words “my mum helped THE MINERS My post was about miners and their communities in general but you highlighted something that happened to your family and implied that it was THE MINERS.’ If your doing a bit of backtracking or would like to amend your statement that’s fine by me but read what your post says and it’s obvious to see you were saying that miners didn’t appreciate the role of the wider community which is total nonsense .
Politically you and I have much we disagree on but I wholeheartedly agree with the above. I was taken down the pit once by a friend who was a pit deputy and wondered at how men could work in such conditions and my wife's dad was invalided out and spent his remaining years in a wheelchair with no compensation other than disability benefits. I, for one, am glad that so few mines exist and people do not have to work in such dangerous life threatening environments. I understand the camaraderie and pride that existed in mining communities and and that the stuffing was knocked out of the town and the Northern Industrial town, sacrificed on the altar of an ideological crusade. If 'she' !!! had had any consideration for the population, post closure planning would have involved far more than simply opening a few call centres. Engineering skills built up over generations were wasted, many transferable are now lost forever.
No backtracking at all: i stated 'some' never paid back: it was you that assumed the whole for purpose of argument. My grandad, an uncle and lots of pals were miners. I joined the picket at wooley and went down to notts a couple of times too. Also spent much time at barnsley boys club which provided a great outlet for the lads who were striking or out of work (or who should have been at school). But i have an agenda hey