anything said about parking and being held captive ?

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  1. troff

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    Don’t start trying to take a moral high ground when it was you who escalated this into a slanging match.
     
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    I'm more concerned about the mental health of the person he abused, thanks.
     
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    You have PM.
     
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    To all the people that’s saying park elsewhere
    There are some people that can’t park elsewhere because of mobility that’s why they park in the big car park
    I’m almost certain the stewards have been told to antagonise people I’ve had a run myself with a car park attendant
    If I was 20 years younger he would have got a right price of my mind you can’t go round talking to people like they do
    NO WAY CAN OR SHOULD THEY TALK TO FOLK LIKE THAT
    It’s only this season that it’s happend
     
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    Hopefully you’ll get the info requested as like you say it will clear it up once and for all.
    I may be wrong but I’m sure someone else requested in the past and was told they wouldn’t release it due to concerns over the safety of individuals involved and club staff.
    I know I’ve read it somewhere but not sure if it was on here.
     
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    Yes it was on here. They said that naming individuals represented a safety risk or something
     
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    On the flip side the carpark attendants I've spoken to this season have been really friendly and say their hands are tied. They'd love to relax the rules but have been told they can't under any circumstances.
     
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    Clearly feeling are running high and fully understand if you have mobility issues you have to use the car park,but it seems to me you want your cake and to eat it as in you need or wish to park right outside the ground and want to leave immediately after the game. I have no mobility issues so I park in town so I have a 15 to 20mins walk after the game thats my down side yours is you have wait for the car park to clear. As for for the attendants if they are been unprofessional then that should be reported to the club and dealt with ,two wrongs don't make a right.
    We have a ground with poor access but its our home and this is all about compromise,its not safe to have cars moving straight after the final whistle and to say but it's always been like that isn't a reason. The alternative is to move to soulless box next to the M1 and I'm pretty sure no one wants that.
     
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    I dont think this is a cake and eat it situation. Its what appears to be over the top rules which no one seems to be able to explain in a way that makes sense.
    I think most of us can understand the need to have cars stationary for 10-15 minutes after the game whilst there are a large number of fans passing through the car park. The closure exactly 30 mins before is inexplicable though - no one has given a good reason.

    The same goes for not being allowed to leave until after the Away coaches have left - it makes no sense since they exit via Beevor court
    I parked in the official car park for the Port Vale game and we didnt move long after there were no fans in the car park, only when I saw the coaches going back up past the exit on the Town side of Pontefract road did anything start to happen - it took over 45 mins from me reaching my car to leaving the car park - at least we should have an explanation as to the reason behind this .

    My Dad cant walk so far these days which is why I parked there.
    On Saturday I instead dropped my dad off and turned round in the new houses at the bottom of the car park so he only had to walk through the car park and went back to the RDA to park then walked back. We did the same in reverse and were back home at the usual time. But that wouldnt work if Dad had to drive himself.

    Back to the OP - of course he is well out of order and there is no excuse but why cant he leave the car park if he leaves early. As I was walking through the car park someone was discussing with a steward leaving early and was told that they would close the gates again at 85 mins so it sounds like our OP was just too late.
    By the way it also appears you can park again after KO - Someone who sits near me who doesn't follow social media had been ill so it was their first game on Saturday. She had bought a car park season ticket in the week but wasnt told about the 30 minute closure and were understandably unhappy to be told at 2:35 she couldnt enter the car park. She was told if she came back at 3 they would let her in so obviously she missed the first 10 mins of the game and was rather unhappy. I happened to be walking past the gates at 14:30 and there were cars queuing to enter but the gates were just closed on them - I understand now why the first car pulled onto the pavement by the gates - I assume to wait until 3pm

    I also noticed the car park was only around half full - its almost as if someone doesnt want a full car park and the money it generates

    PS some have commented about how an out of town stadium would solve the problems - this makes no sense as many arrive by bus and train or park in the town - none of which works if the stadium is out of town
     
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    As Jedi apologised yet?
     
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    That is just a smokescreen though, they can easily release the information whilst redacting names of individuals.
     
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    I agree, it could even go further and have as standard instead of names:
    Police representative
    Council representative
    Club etc

    That way no names are ever revealed but it is clear which body is advising what.
     
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    I put this on another thread but want to post again.

    All is required is pedestrian walkways separated from traffic routes with clearly controlled crossing points where the two meet. LOLLYPOP MAN.

    You can't have thousands of people walking where there is a potential of moving cars.

    Closing the car park is the only option as unfortunately the problem is people will do what they want not what is sensible or put in place for their safety

    Fans who are not parked in the carpark should not walk through the carpark. Lock the pedestrian gates in the carpark aswell and direct fans towards Beevor Court, Grove Street, Belgrave Road and just walk on footpaths not the middle of the road.
    Delay cars for 15 minutes to let the majority clear away then everyone left walk on the footpath like we do everyday of our lives except before and after a match.
    The set up of the traffic management away from the ground, closing access under the bridge on to Harbour Hills is the daftest decision ever and the traffic lights how they are programmed causes more hold ups.

    Anyway shut the carpark, lose supporters blame the club because people are generally selfish or thick.
     
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    My take on this. Two wrongs don't make a right.

    OP should duly apologise otherwise receive some sort of ban at Oakwell.

    Secondly, the female cpa should formally apologise otherwise be either suspended or fired.

    Can't have just customers who lose their rags punished yet stand behind behind disgusting conduct from club employees. It works both ways.
     
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    Looks like it
     
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    She was just making sure she followed the rules she'd been told though? Basically told him not to move the cone or open the gate. Admittedly she shouldn't have sworn but I don't see how it's 2 wrongs in this case? Totally different if she'd reacted as she did to a polite enquiry as to could she please open the gate?
     
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    I have made a complaint to the ICO re BMBC failure to release the SAG minutes. I have also asked my local Cllr to help obtain them.

    I originally asked for them in February 2023.
     
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    Swearing at customers is out of order. Cannot be defended. So yeah 100% both ways as both parties behaviour equally as bad.
     

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