Knobhead Clarkson

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by stairfoot.red, Nov 19, 2024.

  1. Dan

    DannyWilsonLovechild Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    15,109
    Likes Received:
    18,890
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley
    That's precisely right. Around 50% of methane emissions come from agriculture. Around 70% of nitrous oxide.

    And globally, agriculture accounts for around 11-12% of all emissions. Let alone the destruction of wildlife habitat, reduction in biodiversity and run off pollution.
     
  2. Wuz1964

    Wuz1964 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2021
    Messages:
    1,218
    Likes Received:
    1,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Lala Land
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    If cows farting is really affecting climate change I'll chop my arm off! What a complete load of twaddle fgs.
     
    Stephen Dawson likes this.
  3. Dan

    DannyWilsonLovechild Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    15,109
    Likes Received:
    18,890
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley
    Livestock is affecting the climate. Huge amounts of wild land is destroyed every year to graze more cattle. Deforestation occurs so we can plant more non native plant to create food for us... But also for cattle. Losing forest reduces the amount of carbon being taken out of our atmosphere, there are already signs our carbon sinks aren't working and we may have passed a tipping point.

    But I have to say... Contributing a limb for climate change is a huge thing to do personally, so thank you.
     
    Cowboy, S74 Red, Rosco and 1 other person like this.
  4. red

    redrum Banned Idiot

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    24,256
    Likes Received:
    17,710
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)

    The u.k is not a major contributor in world methane emissions. China is responsible for 10% of the world's global emissions.
     
  5. Wuz1964

    Wuz1964 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2021
    Messages:
    1,218
    Likes Received:
    1,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Lala Land
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I do my bit lol.
    What's the percentage of damage caused by aeroplanes ?
     
  6. Red

    Red Edge Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2021
    Messages:
    129
    Likes Received:
    170
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Penistone
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Tbf - it's cow burps that are a bigger problem than farts. Think you got off on a technicality
     
    Wuz1964 likes this.
  7. Stephen Dawson

    Stephen Dawson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2018
    Messages:
    34,854
    Likes Received:
    30,083
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    My Dad would say "he's heard Ducks fart afore". :D
     
    Wuz1964 likes this.
  8. winged avenger

    winged avenger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2016
    Messages:
    2,281
    Likes Received:
    3,496
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    anstonred likes this.
  9. Wuz1964

    Wuz1964 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2021
    Messages:
    1,218
    Likes Received:
    1,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Lala Land
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    What about human farts/burps?
     
    Stephen Dawson likes this.
  10. Dan

    DannyWilsonLovechild Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    15,109
    Likes Received:
    18,890
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley
    Surprisingly, only around 2.5%

    Edit: By far the biggest is energy, then transport (about half scale of energy)... Closely followed by manufacturing and construction, then around 2/3 lower than manufacturing, you've general buildings, industry, land use and forestry, aviation and shipping, other and fugitive emissions (which is essentially leaks from pipes and storage).

    Thats just cO2.
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2024
    Wuz1964 likes this.
  11. Wuz1964

    Wuz1964 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2021
    Messages:
    1,218
    Likes Received:
    1,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Lala Land
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    2.5% from aeroplanes seems quite a small figure. I'm astounded at that
     
  12. Sco

    Scoff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2011
    Messages:
    9,030
    Likes Received:
    7,744
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    The interface between business and technology
    Location:
    Brampton by the Sea
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Per capita, China is 25th on the list. Apart from little places - like Palau or New Caledonia - the majority of the top 25 are either oil producers (6 of top 10), or westernized industrial nations - Canada, Russia, Australia, USA, Taiwan, South Korea, and Singapore.

    For comparison, we are 70th and Ireland are 43rd, Germany 40th and France 74th.
     
    DannyWilsonLovechild likes this.
  13. Dan

    DannyWilsonLovechild Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    15,109
    Likes Received:
    18,890
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley
    I mean obviously, 2.5% of all carbon emissions is a very big number its probably around 1.5 billion tonnes! Which perhaps puts into perspective the huge amount of emissions generated from just our general lives and our day to day choices.

    If you look at methane (which is far worse than carbon dioxide, though much shorter lived... It lasts around 8 years in the atmosphere compared with cO2 lasting up to 200!), agriculture and fugitive emissions makeup the vast majority, with waste (landfills) being the other significant issue... All other sectors hardly contribute to methane emissions at all.

    I suppose the good news is if we could get a handle on reducing methane, we could get on top of that very quickly and potentially see some benefit in a decade. Carbon dioxide however is going to be around for several lifetimes even if we ceased pumping it into the atmosphere today.

    The sad thing is everyone can make a difference. Some bigger than others, of course, but we can all contribute. If we blame it on China and wait for them to do the things we are too scared or apathetic towards, well... It will lead to a climate that isn't that great for human habitation. How long it takes... We'll have to wait and see.
     
    Wuz1964 likes this.
  14. Dwr

    Dwrawa Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2018
    Messages:
    182
    Likes Received:
    169
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Someone having a differing opinion to me doesnt make me angry , its an opinion at the end of the day. Services wise things have been cut , no 2 ways about it - its the conservative way - privatise everything etc - Labour's way is to overspend. I know many a person that work in the public sector and say quite alot of staff could be ridded of and likewise a helluva lot of people off long term sick without good reason (ie not the obvious such as cancer etc) - the system being far too generous (which without wanting to send your blood pressure even more pumping, is the reason why some go into the job over a private company ). Yes there is wastage in the private sector however the fundamental difference is you or I dont pay for it out of our taxes in a private scheme - it comes from someone's profits.

    Hats off to Labour for wanting to get ex service men/women off the streets - for people to have served their country in the forces and not looked after - now that is frustrating and could cause folk to get angry about . People having to rely on food banks and not having anything to give their kids at christmas is more frustrating and again could cause folk to get angry about as opposed to an opinion that you dont agree with.

    At the end of the day, I pay my taxes and I have an opinion - as do you. It isn't a totalitarian state as yet
     
    Cowboy likes this.
  15. Brush

    Brush Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2005
    Messages:
    16,437
    Likes Received:
    15,336
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Ex-IT professional
    Location:
    Swadlincote, South Derbyshire
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Wow you really are deluded aren't you?
     
  16. John Peachy

    John Peachy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2011
    Messages:
    17,348
    Likes Received:
    16,982
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    The littlest hobo
    Location:
    Leeds, United Kingdom
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    This is a very complicated argument. I do a lot of work in rural communities & work for some folks who have farms. I also know folks who have owned clubs & live venues in big cities. Neither make a great ROI, based on property / asset values. Both do it as a calling, to some extent, although on paper they are wealthy, if they sell up, or die. At the moment under the revised legislation the club / venue owners are still worse off under IHT.

    Clarkson, who has weighed in as spokesperson has probably done less for the small farmers cause than anyone though. Him flagging up the IHT loophole has caused many billionaires to buy up farm land. This has pushed up land prices massively. If you are a genuine farmer & want to expand production, the costs have gone up massively to do so. The bloke is only in it for himself & anyone with any sense can see that he is the last person to be speaking out.
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2024
  17. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    42,548
    Likes Received:
    30,315
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    On Sofa
    Style:
    Barnsley
    I'm not in the slightest bit interested in anything you have to say. Quote me again if you like but I won't read it, as I haven't this.
     
  18. red

    redrum Banned Idiot

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    24,256
    Likes Received:
    17,710
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)

    The top 5 countries for methane emissions are China, India, USA, Russia and Brazil.
     
  19. red

    redrum Banned Idiot

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    24,256
    Likes Received:
    17,710
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)

    It would be one of the worst things indvidualy that could happen for me.
     
  20. Dan

    DannyWilsonLovechild Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    15,109
    Likes Received:
    18,890
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley
    So generally the countries with the most people? The clue was in 'per capita'.
     
    Redhelen likes this.

Share This Page