Barnsley fan jailed

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  1. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

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    I don't believe in punishing people. I believe in rehabilitating people. I don't understand what can possibly be gained from punishing people.

    I'm also aware that some people are dangerous. Those people need separating from society in what we call a prison. Not to punish them, but to protect other people. As such, they wouldn't be serving a sentence of punishment, no 'serve your time and you're out', they would remain incarcerated until experts in the field deemed that they no longer pose a risk to the public. If the risk remains then they remain separated from society.

    This woman is not a danger to the public. Our resources would be far better spent giving her the opportunity to help others with any skills she may have. Nothing will be achieved by locking her up.
     
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    Fantastic!
     
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    You know what. I'd never looked at it this way, but I think you're correct.
     
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    Same. It's a very valid viewpoint and one I could get on board with
     
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    I get where you're coming from but then why should I not hack your bank account and steal your entire life savings? Apart from that I don't know how to of course.

    I wouldn't be a danger to the public and you don't believe in punishment so with zero punishment why should I not steal everyone's money as it is high gain and absolutely zero risk for me?
     
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    Stealing all my money would put me in danger. I wouldn't be able to feed myself or pay my rent or bills. I could easily end up in serious trouble through missed payments. I could end up homeless. And that's just the practical side of it. The mental anguish from being a victim of crime, particularly if it's all my life savings, could be serious, leading to anxiety, depression and other mental health problems. Many victims of crime have taken their own life.

    You don't have to be hitting people with an axe to be putting people in danger. Clearly, if you're taking everyone's money, then you're a menace to society and the opportunity for you to continue to do so has to be taken away from you.

    And I'm not suggesting you get to keep all your ill-gotten gains or anything you've bought with them. They are taken away from you and are used to recompense the victims of crime.

    You also have a debt to those people you have wronged, for that anguish you have caused. If you repented, and it was agreed that it was unlikely you were going to reoffend, I see no reason to punish you by locking you up. Nothing is achieved by doing that. But neither do you get to use the obvious skills you have to get a well paid job and live the life of Riley. You owe a lot of people. And while you can't necessarily repay those people directly, the skills you possess can help many other people. That's called community service. You'd be doing a lot of that.
     
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