Depressing...

Ahh the 70's - reading your book by candlelight, inflation at 20pct and an IMF bailout - good times -

 

Compared with some of the disorder at football matches in the 70’s Sundays game was a picnic, it shouldn’t have happened and individuals should take responsibility for their own behaviour but you can’t dismiss the failings in the organisation or Policing of the event , a few tried and tested measures in crowd and ticket control would have stopped the situation before it happened.

 

they come because I always respect that you have firm positions on your statements. Often fixed. That’s not a criticism by the way. As such I wondered what the logic in some of your comments were. I wasn’t disagreeing with it and in fact some parts I see your points. Don’t assume my challenge means I disagree or I have an alternative proposal. Some parts didn’t make sense so I questioned it to understand more. The bit you didn’t answer is why locking people up wouldn’t help. I want to try to understand what you mean as you also state a higher police presence dogs etc would have helped. Why is that? I would have thought the police as a deterrent had greater powers of arrest and the possibility a charge could serve time. Also isn’t a lifetime football ban already available for these breeches so what’s new there?

…To add, we had the flagship venue that’s hosted events with many more people, with a police service classed as one of the best in the world, at an event also carried out many times in other countries, with many months of planning…. And they got it wrong? If so we shouldn’t be allowed events like this for many years.

 

I know it’s an opinion but the Met Police under the current Commander have proved themselves to be less than competent in recent months in dealing with crowd control , and assessments of situations have been nothing short of incompetent.The planning for the event ,to be fair ,was hampered by not knowing how many fans would be let into the stadium and that seemed to change from day to day at one point . The pictures that I saw seemed to indicate , not an organised mass breach of the stadium security but an opportunist situation with some thugs realising that the security was thin at one part of the stadium, pulling down the barriers then others in the vicinity piling through , there must have been little security actually in the stadium concourses

 

Don’t forget kids being bûmmed by celebrities while the establishment and BBC turned a blind eye. Halcyon days indeed.

 

maybe if his parents had taught him that other people have the right to air an opinion without being told its rose tinted b0ll0x ?

 

I don't think anyone is saying you're not entitled to an opinion- doesn't mean someone isn't going to disagree with it though and say its daft.

I'm sure if I said Ronnie Glavin (before my time) was the worst player ever, people would say that was ******** too. I have no reason to think that, im sure he was as good as people say!

 

i dont mind people disagreeing with my opinion but when its with abuse thats not really on, all i was doing was telling a tale that happened to me in the 60's and the resulting thoughts on the farmers apples. i didnt fetch the op's parents into it but that poster seems to look for on posters hound/troll/bully, not t.m. ( sunlighter, shed 131 very recently and these fellow bfc supporters have felt the need to leave this forum)

 

Got hit a few times when I was a kid when I was being a bit of a *hit.

Didn't do me any harm at all.

 

If that's aimed at me that's ********. I haven't hounded or bullied either of those posters and resent the accusation. I called out the fact that shed131 was sharing misinformation, and I deliberately stayed out of the Sunlighter thread to avoid piling on.

 

Nothing new under the sun. Same sh*t different times.