‘No one wants restrictions forever’

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  1. orsenkaht

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    The point was, no-one on here wants restrictions forever. I believe that remains true.
     
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    Probably the case, some think restrictions need to continue due to fear of covid numbers rising, others feel the cost v benefit of such policy isn't proportional. So I agree hardly anyone will want it to go on forever but for some I'm not sure what it would take for them to feel secure without restrictions.
     
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    I'm very suspicious of the methodology behind this survey, particularly how the questions were worded. There's no way that amount of people genuinely answered like that for the 'regardless of COVID' questions.
     
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    What people perhaps don't realise is just how strong a neo-puritan tendency there is in this country. There are plenty of people who never go out and generally disapprove of those who do, particularly if they're young.

    This level of support for curfews and limits on licensed premises doesn't surprise me at all, and I'd be surprised if it's changed an awful lot due to covid.

    I do find the bottom two a bit suspect though.
     
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    Chuck in no more England games :D

     
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    That still doesn't make sense though as it says 'regardless of Covid risk' so the point there is it includes there being zero risk. That just shows a lack of critical thinking and reading comprehension; it can't be due to fear as the question includes Covid not existing. People therefore can't be answering that way because they are scared of Covid, it's because they either can't understand the question or they just don't like nightclubs anyway and would prefer them to shut down (for example).
     
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    I can only presume that they didn't understand the question. Even the people who Kamikaze referred to who are at risk of Covid shouldn't have taken that into account for the last question as it said 'regardless of Covid' which means they needed to basically pretend Covid wasn't a thing for the last question. It should have said something clear like 'if Covid no longer existed'.
     
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    You could well be right in your belief that those posting on here are unrepresentative of society as a whole.

    Another alternative is that the poll was taken just after bingo had been cancelled in an old folks home.
     
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    Probably a combination of the above and also the fact that once you’ve been driven to fear on something, like the world has, you can’t just forget it exists. You’re answering with one eye on it regardless of the question as that’s your mental position.

    I imagine the questions have been loaded or weighted towards giving these stats, but a couple of years ago you’d have struggled to have manipulated as many people in to these answers.
     
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    The fact that lockdown was considered necessary by the Government itself likely increased perception of the threat Covid posed to society. This in turn would feed into public approval of lockdowns, essentially making it a self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts.
     
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    They will be happy with this then. Pressuring those who don't want the vaccine so they are more likely to get one.

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    According to latest YouGov polling:

    The number of people supporting the government’s unlocking plans has fallen from 59 per cent to 47 per cent in the past week while the number of people opposed has risen from 28 per cent to 43 per cent, YouGov polling shows.

    The crunch question may be: what level of compliance will we see amongst the half of the population that are sick to the back teeth of all the restrictions? Past experience suggests that government policy will change so as to be on the right side of that trend if restrictions are ignored. Then there's the threat of backbench revolt - all depending on what Labour's position is, of course!

    I agree with dreamboy3000 (possibly for the first time!) though - this does have the smell of putting pressure on the unvaccinated!
     
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    I’m not doubting the source because it’s as good as you’ll get, but I’d like to see what questions were asked, the actual responses and what demographic was surveyed. Maybe I live in a different world but that does not reflect my experience whatsoever. I have not met a single person that wants some of the permanent restrictions listed there.
     
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    In my experience most youngsters are happy to get vaccinated. Not met one yet who had said they won't be having it.
     
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    This is the picture the Times report paints, Helen:

    While more than 95 per cent of the over-50s have been vaccinated, the rate is 76 per cent in those aged 30-34 and is now plateauing. So far 58 per cent of those aged 18 to 24 have had a first jab.

    Whether that's reluctance amongst lower age groups, or simple logistics is harder to say. But I think there's a bit of a persuasion campaign going on to try and persuade the younger folk.
     
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    It's not been open for over 18s to have jabs for very long though.taking daughter to Priory for hers today, waited till she was home from uni so she could get both jabs done at the same place.
     
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    Exactly right, they’ve just not had chance to get it yet.
     
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    Obviously it all very much depends on who was surveyed and what the leading questions were.
    Almost everyone I know is so sick of the restrictions and Schools shutting down at the drop of a hat that they have long since stopped following the rules anyway.
    If we drop the legal requirement for make next Monday I would expect a immediate drop in masks wearing where the majority will be unmasked and that it will grow as time goes on.
     
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    As the great man himself said: "If not now, when?" :)
     
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    Depends as I suspect a lot of businesses will keep masks compulsory.
     

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