11 terror suspects from Pakistan on student visas.

RE: Seriously.

Two things - where do you draw the line for competition? Darton, Barnsley, Yorkshire, England, Europe, or the globe.

We can all prosper globally if the best person for the job does that job, whether that be in Pakistan or Darton.

The current problems are not because of problems in Barnsley, it's because of the global recession.

 

RE: You didn't ask or answer the question....

Forget the long-term consequences, we are already seeing the consequences. For example in my industry of IT, work being offshored to India. But that's not just students being trained here, many will be trained in the US, so I guess our universities may as well benefit financially.

 

I agree it would take some kind of coordination between countries. nt

 

what has pc got to do with this?

back to the bad old days, eh? overt racism, sexism, and general anyone slightly dfferent ism?

don't mistake pc for downright stupid.

 

RE: I agree it would take some kind of coordination between countries. nt

It would help if our companies didn't offshore work.
I see a lot of our IT development work either going offshore, or they bring people in from abroad (India) on short term contracts. The answer we get back is that it allows more flexibility as they can use these companies as and when they need them, say bringing in a dozen programmers for a couple of months when they are required rather than having to use their own pool of permanant staff.

 

RE: what has pc got to do with this?

Both extremists and PC liberals wish to change the way we lead our lives.</p>

Last time I checked, extremeist or the name of a country was not classed as a &quot;race&quot;, thus shedding light on all the &quot;isms&quot; so keenly used by lefties with blinkers on.
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you say pc and liberal like they're bad things....

like a lot of things, they can be abused, but don't tell me you'd rather go back to the bad old days?

unless of course you're one of the "i'm not racist, but...." brigade.

 

RE: you say pc and liberal like they're bad things....

I'm just not sure what either have to do with student visas. Sounds like it's more about capitalism and lack of funding to universities meaning that they have to look at whatever ways they can to make money.

 

That's just the kind of extremist, knee-jerk reaction....

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...that currently makes any solutions impossible.</p>

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I couldn't disagree more.

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And we're not talking about the &quot;best person for the job,&quot; we're talking about the cheapest. A situation that benefits neither party.</p>

We appear to be the only nation in the world that doesn't put its own interests first. </p>

 

RE: I couldn't disagree more.

Actually they are haiving the same arguments in the States - call centres overseas, offshoring of IT work etc

 

I suppose it takes the decimation of one's own industry for it to hit home. nt

 

RE: you say pc and liberal like they're bad things....

No, I like to look at the bigger picture.</p>

Can't white-wash everything.
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I like dodging questions almost as much as I do dodging salad

Well that question assumes that we WILL enable our competitors to go on and undercut us. But are we really teaching them anything they couldn't find elsewhere? Rarely does the cutting edge find its way into the classroom. Research papers are available in the public domain (sort of). They could teach themselves if pushed so why not cash in now and provide the service. And don't forget that many of the countries have as much if not more to teach us than we have to teach them. They have a fresh and modern approach to things while we keep one foot in the Victorian era. Any innovation developed at the university becomes intellectual property of the university too so let the finest minds come here and add to that knowledge base.

As for targetting extremists I'm going to yell, "Look, is that Kevin Phillips outside Davey's office?" and run away while everyone is looking away. Yoikes!

 

I went to a Henning Wehn comedy night recently

He was joking that he was glad that Germany failed in its bid for global domination because it means that German is still only spoken in Germany and a few other areas. This means that when he rings customer service he knows that the person on the other end of the line will be in bloody Germany.

 

Now that's an answer.

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Nice one.</p>

 

Re. the slave labour...

You seem to have your back up over this, and I can't for the life of me work out why. Which companies exactly do you think make a profit out of costs falling overseas due to unacceptable working conditions?

All of them? Including the British ones? Yeah, that's what I think as well.

How many companies do you personally boycott as a statement against these 'slave labour conditions'?

 

Given that he spends much of his time on here

trying to knock out sweatshop made t-shirts then I doubt he boycotts them! (doh)</p>

http://internationaltrade.suite101.com/article.cfm/t_shirt_sweatshops</p>

 

RE: Re. the slave labour...

It is apparently alright for companies allied to these shores to continue to exploit overseas labour, as the dear old Empire itself allowed and indeed encouraged, but Allah forbid if the clever ones come over here and learn how to do it themselves.

But as goes the lyric in Jesus Christ Superstar - "There will be poor always, pathetically struggling - look at the good things you've got".

But don't respond to Windy posts in all haste too often - he throws open a loaded question or two, and then embarks upon a program of belittlement if you don't get his predetermined answer. Some might conclude he exudes a superiority complex, but that could well be because he is actually superior.

 

My experience is its financial

At the uni I went to it was purely financial. They tended to ship a load of American students in for one year and charge them exorbitant fees as they were exempt from the limitations on how much they could charge UK students. Apparently they needed the income as what they got from the government wasn't sufficient. Whether this has changed at all after top up fees I don't know.