All fair points Jay. I don't often agree with you politically, but that is also true of many other posters on here - it doesn't bother me, it's all part of life. It doesn't make me right and others wrong any more than it makes others right and me wrong. Being a pariah isn't so bad. I don't have an issue with different view points, in fact I welcome them; I genuinely do like a good robust debate about any subject but I do find that it has become very difficult on here; there is a sense of hostility right from the outset when there is descent from the prevailing BBS opinion - I'm not just referring to this post. I know I've mentioned it before but I also post on a politics forum. I really enjoy the debate on there, not necessarily because the quality of poster is better, they're not, but because admin do not tolerate personal abuse. It really makes a big difference. I accept that the BBS is not primarily a political forum and that, for obvious reasons, there is a propensity to vilify anything even remotely Tory friendly but I don't like to see the degree of tribalism that we are seeing because I don't think it's helpful. We do see point scoring on both sides but it seems like one is more tolerated than the other and I don't like that much either. It's going too far now in my opinion. By the way you did apologise and I appreciated it as I said to you in my response. You didn't have to so fair play to you. I wasn't aware of your personal circumstances that night, it was clearly a very difficult time and I am sorry, genuinely sorry, for the loss of your friend.
Once someone has told you a lie, it makes you distrust everything they say. There's currently disagreement behind the scenes about the 2 metre social distancing for example. Some are trying to argue now that it isn't really necessary. I'm getting the impression it's because the present rule is making it too difficult for some businesses to restart. If this suddenly gets relaxed, I will strongly suspect it isn't being done with people's health as the priority.
I honestly cannot see the two meter rule being relaxed, certainly not without additional safeguarding in place. I will be genuinely interested to hear how football plans to work around this. If they plan on testing every player before every match / training session then it makes a mockery of the key worker priority. How the hell can footballers be given a level of priority equal to the NHS and other front line workers. In what way do they qualify for proactive testing?
I believe the way Germany record deaths is different to here and I think they had another spike, albeit small, when they relaxed their lockdown recently. Having said that I'd still like to know how football can feasibly follow any social distancing regulations no matter how small.
I'm not on any side JV and I'm not taking sides on here. No matter what your point of view is threatening to attack somebody from the safety of your keyboard doesn't add any credibility to any debate.
the blokes a bit of a tool though isn’t he? Deliberately repeating things he knows to be lies just for a sad few minutes of attention.
That's a wonderful post Mario. You stick to your views mate, and carry on posting on here, irrespective of what comes your way.
The numbers thing. Who cares? A completely arbitrary target set by a Govt minister to try and head off criticism. I don’t think that the Govt had handled the day to day particularity badly just the constant need to lie lie and lie again is wearying. The problems are long term and systemic from a decade of underfunding the health service and demonising and demoralising it’s workers. Going forwards hopefully people will appreciate the essential services from Bus drivers to supermarket workers through to doctors and transport workers I doubt it but we live in hope.
Did you not post recently and seek to stand by the "fact" that 300 or so kids were going to die daily? Were you repeating things just for a sad few minutes of attention? We should all be far more respectful and reflective before we post *****. Nearly every day we get the most extreme posting that anyone can find on the internet. Then it gets disproved - like your post was.
My opinion for what its worth is that the government didn't achieve their self imposed target and the claim that they did was a little fanciful however the increase in testing capacity should be applauded even if it has taken too long to achieve it. I haven't agreed with the opening post, I agreed with some other points made by him but I wholeheartedly disagree with personal insults and threats of violence made just because of a different point of view. I know that you wouldn't do it and I think I know how you would respond if somebody did it to you. I don't know if the OP genuinely believes what he wrote or if he was just responding to the increasing amount of hostility there is on here but regardless you debate and try to prove your point without insults and definitely without juvenile threats.
I believe the spike went back down the next couple of days. They are still wanting to start the football behind closed doors but fans aren't happy . Rumours that 3 Cologne players and 1 coaching staff have tested positive but nothing has been released.
Yes I think the spike was only temporary but also shows that this virus is still a very real threat that only needs the tiniest opportunity to become a problem again. Football just isn't important enough to take a risk with in my opinion. And I am with the fans completely on this one; football is a spectator sport and playing behind closed doors is nothing more than self serving and will only benefit the big clubs.
I read somewhere yesterday that they'd need 40,000 tests to enable them to get the remaining matches played. I'm finding the complete lack of morality in football grubbing around to find a way to complete the season depressing. The game has become a disgrace.
I'm not sure, looking at the data, the spike can be attributed to that given that the previous pattern of reporting in Germany has led to similar 'spikes'. Scroll down this link to see daily new cases. That said it will clearly re-emerge at some point in the future.
Do you find all the other businesses who want to open as bad though? Companies throughout the country, and the world, are holding meetings and making plans to reopen purely for financial reasons but I don't see anyone slagging them off because the BBC don't jump on their meetings and put in on the front page of the news site.
For what it’s worth, I tend to agree, but shortages of PPE, tests and vents etc are facts, not opinions.
Our University has no plans to have any face to face teaching before 21st June and given that date there'd likely be none again this academic year. Our school (and no doubt many others) are planning online teaching for the September intake of students so I'm not expecting to be called back to work anytime soon. Fortunately I doubt the demand for nurses will be in short supply anytime soon, but some schools and to be fair most of the university rely on foreign students for income (which we don't) so I'd have concerns over their financial viability if this carries on for long periods.
