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Are you saying you are against shareholders making money

 

An ISA is a scheme specifically set up to incentivise saving among small investors.

This is in no way analogous to the deliberate exploitation of tax loopholes by multinational corporations, or the manufacturing of bullsh*t schemes by the likes of Jimmy Carr's accountant.


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No just avoiding tax. Try to keep up

 

Never understood the issue with Jimmy Carr loads of self employed people do exactly the same

 

It's a fair point too. If you can't afford to raise kids don't feckin have em.

 

Because your generation voting in Thatcher has given rise to a nation of selfish right wingers who are only interested in themselves and see everyone within the welfare state as some sort of "scrounger" and therefore welfare = benefits = a Bad Thing.

So it's basically people over 40's fault.

 

Unclaimed welfare benefit vastly outweighs any benefits claimed fraudulently OBR figures. Topping up wages due to employers being allowed to pay less than living wage is actually propping up employers not employees.

 

They do, and it needs stopping. Doesn't make it right for Carr to do it just because plumbers do it, it all needs to stop. Although there is the CIS scheme for construction industry.

 

Bit harh but partly correct. Tbf Thatcher changed voting barriers on her first landslide victory so Tories could and did get voted with minority shares of the voting. So it wasn't all us over forties but I sympathise with your views

 

Because there are so fewer manual jobs due to outsourcing and mechanisation of production. USA lost 20m of these in one 10 year stretch back in the 80's IIRC.

 

Agree with that.

Its not those that choose to live on benefits who are at fault, because that option is there for them, its the politicians who have tinkered with The Welfare system non stop from its inception, using it at times as a vote winner, that has got it to the state it is in today. Red or blue they aint a clue.

 

Just because I'm from the same place scamming workshy benefit fraudsters are not my chuffing own. I belong to the WORKING class. Just because rich people and companies are scamming doesn't make the people on the other side any better.

 

Your straw man argument is just embarrassing.

 

ISAs are a form of tax planning, set up by the government as an incentive. It is not tax avoidance.

Tax avoidance is paying less tax than the government intended. Of course there's different levels of tax avoidance depending on how you choose to interpret the legislation, it's not set in stone. It's so complicated that most of the time companies don't realise they're committing tax avoidance or evasion.

As for Amazon and Google etc. The amount of employer NIC and other tax the treasury take vastly outweighs any corporation tax they may or may not be liable for.