3 managers quit for same reason

One additional point to note. All of them achieved their immediate goal after taking up the role so had achieved 'success' in it by any reasonable standard. Hecky got us promoted, Stendel got us promoted, Struber avoided relegation.

In each case, the disillusion has set in when they've expected assistance in making the next step up the rung, which is not being relegation fodder in the Championship. Fundamentally, that's where the relationship always seems to break down.

We've been lucky to an extent in that we've found coaches who've actually achieved something in the role to begin with. It's only a matter of time before we hit on another Morais and don't even get that, and they'll ultimately be sacked.

The end result will be the same in either case. We'll continue to churn head coaches at the rate of at least 1 per season.

 

True. Wycombe and Ainsworth are enjoying a free hit. Bit worried for when we play them though because they are good at shithousery that might not work against the bigger championship teams but could with us.

 

Where was this released? Club website? I've not watched it, and am genuinely surprised to have missed it. I'd like to figure out why.

I think he's trying to do a good job in difficult circumstances, but he's prone to an absolute howler, like the Ludewig statement (or at least being the person blamed for it as the only public face available at that level).

One problem is that he fundamentally lacks the gravitas of a CEO in the way that GG did. He comes across as someone who only acts, in terms of public statements, when the ownership allow him to do so whereas GG seemed very much more like the person making the day to day decisions at a general management level. This might not actually be the case, but it's definitely the perception I have.

GG also did some very astute things to gain positive publicity, even if that wasn't the primary purpose of his actions. The fan letter regarding mental health (which only became public because the recipient shared it) was the obvious example. I could never seen Dane doing something meaningful and personal like that, based on my relative perception of the two men, but also the fact that I don't see the club being close enough to it's support base to even spot it these days.

 

To say Hecky, Stendel and Struber were the same wouldn't do justice to the rough deal that the current board gave to Stendel, who was expected to make a step up to the Championship after losing his goalkeeper, three centre backs and his top scorer.

Hecky's main issues were with the previous owners, who with a bit of better planning, and not much more money could arguably had us starting the 17/18 season with a midfield of Barnes, Morsy, Scowen and Watkins. With McBurnie and Bradshaw up front. We'd have been nowhere near relegation. But his one window with the current owners wasn't too bad. McDonald left, but he wasn't playing if memory serves me well while Moore came in and we finally got McBurnie in.

Struber had a role as close to being a manager, rather than a head coach as we'll ever have. Brought in his own players and while his contacts might have proven better than Stendel's (Sollbauer & Ludewig > Radlinger & Bahre for example), he's lost one player in two windows and brought in players with first team experience, albeit abroad. The recruitment has been poor in this window, but I think Struber had a part to play in that, more so than Hecky or Stendel ever did, or at least it appears that way from the outside looking in.

 

Spot on DT...stated this befofe....i expected more (not money) just more for international succesful businessmen.

 

Ainsworth has been there a long time and joined them as a manager when they were literally languishing round the bottom of div 3. For the majority of his time there he has had next to no money ever and has managed on a relevant shoestring.
The current owner has only been there about a year.

 

Not sure that GG was more available then DM. Could be wrong but am sure DM has done a lot more interviews/Comms.

Theres is also a massive difference in role, GG was very much a CEO type person who not only comes from a commercial background but was very much running the business side.
DM however is a footballer by trade and is running the football side of things with Robert Zuk running the commercial side.

 

That doesn't help DM's case much.

I think GG was more accessible to fans because he was fairly active / responsive on social media as well.

 

I’d say Dane is light years begins both GG and Ben in terms of fan engagement and relationship.

 

You may well be right, Ben, old mate. In all seriousness, I don't have a problem with others holding a different viewpoint to me. It'd be a poor state of affairs if we were all clones of one another with respect to our opinions.
But I stand by what I've posted.

 

Strange your quick to believe someone who signed a contract then left for a vastly increased salary the next week but not people who actually have a significant financial interest in the success of the club . If Stockport had offered him a job on sod all would he have gone, like **** he would have .

 

It's because he hasn't signed a striker.

 

Is that Eddie Howe finding out he's the new Barnsley F.C Head Coach?

 

I think you're bang on here. Murphy has zero gravitas. And when you mix that up with jumbled Americanisms throughout communications and then add on top of that the stuff he's having to try and justify from above, it makes his position unbelievably difficult.

He may well be a decent guy, he may well have communicated x% more than any other CEO in the history of mankind. It doesn't make him believable, effective or competent though.