3pm Saturday TV outage

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  1. TonyTyke

    TonyTyke Well-Known Member

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    There is that too, but no television company in this country can broadcast live English football from just before 3 until just after 5pm.

    The rights is another matter and by clubs streaming their own games, it would probably upset Sky,
     
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    But surely you're decreasing the risk by making it available to all.

    How many of here have watch something dodgily THIS season? Most people are happy to pay for a decent service at a fair price.
     
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    In addition to that, radio rights .... really annoys me that the BBC local stations can't broadcast coverage over the internet but can on FM/DAB/digital.
     
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    Not just smaller clubs. Gate receipts and revenue from food & drink greatly outweigh any potential revenue from charging say a tenner for a streaming service.

    A family of 4 for example might spend say £80 on match tickets, £20 on food and drink at the match, and maybe another tenner on programmes/merch/parking etc, as opposed to a tenner for the 4 of them to watch it on TV. That's assuming the club would get all of that £10, which presumably they wouldn't.

    It would also take money away from the town as a whole. I popped in to see a couple of mates before the game on Saturday, and in a 90ish minute visit to the pub, we spent about £40 between us.

    For it to be financially viable, it would have to be much more expensive to stream the game. Which then of course would cause a lot of people to pirate it.

    Personally, I'd go to games whenever I could, but I know a lot probably wouldn't, particularly in the winter.
     
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    People will still stream it illegally- people openly were saying this last season.

    It isn't just that either, it is what Archey has said too. If a sizeable amount prefer to pay a tenner over a full priced ticket then you have loss of revenue not just from tickets but from programmes, drinks and food etc.

    I'm not against airing it, I'm just highlighting why it isn't likely to happen.

    The cost of football is too high for many and there is too much greed.
     
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    I had considered the extra's that people buy - but I also think there would be a lot of people - possibly the majority - who won't buy in the stadium (pie, beer, parking etc)?

    You will always get people pirating, and you can't stop that, but I do think you can reduce it.
     
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    Perhaps the answer is you would have to buy a season ticket for say £250 and individual games would be say £30. Figures may need to be tweaked.
    Not ideal and wouldn’t solve the add ons listed above, but at least the club is getting similar revenue to people buying tickets.
     
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    I very rarely buy anything at the stadium. But if I stayed at home and watched every home game for £10, the club are still losing about £70 a season just from me not purchasing a season ticket.
     
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    Of course the answer to all this 'can the club afford this' etc, is for the industry (and I'm not really talking about L1 and L2 and possibly even us here) to pay agents and top players less. But that's another story
     
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    I can’t see why people who are too frail to attend matches cannot be issued with a personal WIFI season ticket. Yes it would need to be negotiated with sky, yes there would be an admin cost to the clubs, but Barnsley along with most other clubs claim to be community conscious and this would be an ideal opportunity to demonstrate it.
     
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    It would be a good compromise, but I suppose what's to stop one person legitimately getting it, and 18 of his family going round to watch the match.
     
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    Ok...

    Would you pay £230 extra for your ST, if it gave you iFollow access to all of the away games?

    If YES, would that mean that you stop travelling to away games as a result, or do you not normally go to away games anyway?
     
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    The 3pm blackout was agreed between the FA, premier league and EFL I believe. It isn't to do with Sky per se.
     
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    I can’t imagine that many frail people have seating for 19 people. :) Seriously though I really don’t see that happening to any great extent. In any case there’s nothing right now to stop the 18 going round to Grandad’s and setting it up to watch the game via a vpn.
     
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    To be fair, I don't think I would.
    I can only speak for me personally, but I like to go to away games. Bournemouth away (oh balls, I need to book an hotel for that, thanks for reminding me) in itself has already costs me in excess of £100 and I'm not guaranteed a match ticket yet. However, I'm not someone who will go to the other side of the country for 90 minutes and come home again (hence needing a hotel for Bournemouth).

    That said, by the time Cardiff was announced, train fairs were so exorbitant that I couldn't justify it. I was working for Bolton and I have other things to do for QPR. So who knows.
     
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    Well that’s torn it then
     
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    I have a tendency to exaggerate.
     
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    In other news ....

    Of course the other issue is copyright to repeat a match. I can't imagine many old matches from Sky being pirated, but I do think the copyright should expire for 'home use' after 10 years. I couldn't actually find out how long it does last.

    For films, "In the UK copyright generally expires 70 years after the death of the creator for written, artistic, musical and film work" which I also think is too long.
     
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    While it might put a small number of people off attending games, I don't think it will be a significant number. Maybe in more adverse weather or last minute, but if you enjoy football and support a team, you want to do it live. You want to be there. Whether you buy merchandise, food, drink, programmes or anything on the periphery, you aren't going to if you can't get to the game through mobility, circumstance or sheer distance.

    I think there will be a change at some point soon. Hopefully the concessions made aren't too detrimental.
     
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    Only place I can get a chicken balti Pukka Pie is at Oakwell, not sure the people would want to lose out on them
     
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