A lot of wind taken out of a lot of sails today

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  1. orsenkaht

    orsenkaht Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps things will improve once the transfer portal opens.
     
    orsenkaht, Dec 10, 2023
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    Heh.
     
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    7th in the table, 2 games in hand on third place and only a few points shy of the magical 2 points per game average. All without playing well? Things could be a hell of a lot worse.

    Are the top teams playing great stuff every week? Who knows? I hope they are, because it means there’s room for them to have a blip or 3, whereas we’ve got room for improvement and they’re all in catching distance.

    All to play for!
     
    fitzytyke, Dec 10, 2023
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    I wonder what Galleys opinion is ?
     
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    Might be out of step, but I don't find us boring or hard to watch... we've played some s**t and some good stuff... but tbf we've scored more goals from open play than anyone in the league.
     
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    I sometimes found the Dave Bassett team hard to watch and they scored an absolute shedload of goals. Think I'd just been spoilt by the quality of the Wilson side that took us up, although Bassett's team got more points, wins, and scored more goals. However, they conceded nearly 70, which is nuts for a team which narrowly missed out on automatic promotion.
     
    Merde Tete, Dec 10, 2023
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    Ahh the portal lol, it was a great game was Portal 2. :)

    Will Collins be given any sort of budget to spend next month ?. To try and improve things and keep the Play off push going.
     
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    Yes but Keith Brown
     
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    Then surely it works the other way when we lose away to the top of the league?

    But that causes the immediate Sack Him threads.
     
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    Are there any good players in the Ganymede or Betelgeuse leagues that we could sign? Maybe an experienced 8-legged wingback from Orion Division 2?
     
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    Keith Brown, Steve Chettle and David Tuttle. Very obviously much worse players than Arjan de Zeeuw and Adie Moses. What was Bassett actually thinking? We'd have won the league with those two and Morgan at the back.
     
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    In terms of the threads I agree they are both equally inane.

    in terms of results against bottom and top of the Leagie given our squad and budget of course people will look at them differently
     
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  13. George Kerr

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    I think those with ‘glass half empty’ views on our current situation should take a retrospective look at football life before ‘head coaches’. Back when we had managers they used to say he needed three seasons to turn a team around. It took Fergie four years to win his first trophy. In that era managers were in far more control of the running of the club. The manager was in full charge of recruitment.He decided who he wanted brought into the club. Nowadays a coach has to make do with what he is given by the recruitment team, on top of which he has to fulfill the fan’s aspirations of success in six months. You wouldn’t ask a craftsman to make something on the basis you provide the tools and materials, and complete the job in days instead of the necessary weeks.
     
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    At the time of the FA Cup third round in January 1990, the papers were full of stories about Manchester Utd getting rid of Fergie if they lost to Forest. Mark Robins (then 20) scored the only goal and they went on to win the cup - and climb out of relegation trouble. Some fans were already demanding a change of manager...

    https://www.goal.com/en-gb/lists/ex...anager/blt2976f6913b87fe3e#cs7a01d9f4032f37e3
     
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  15. SuperTyke

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    Turn it around? We missed out on promotion in the last second of the game following two absolutely awful refereeing decisions.

    You are talking as though we were bottom of the league
     
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    A hell of a lot has changed since that play-off final, though. All things considered, Collins is doing a good job. A great job? No, not in my opinion. But if we can start beating the better sides and play with speed and creativity more consistently then he will be. And we’re not far away from that.
     
    Wilmersdorfer Winky, Dec 11, 2023
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    Maybe so but there was nothing to turn round when he came. That's just factual. Your point that he's had to continue the good work with a changed squad is valid but the claim that he's had to turn it around is just wrong
     
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    Absolutely on the contrary. I want coaches to be given reasonable time. It took Duff until Christmas to get the team playing the way he wanted. Reasonable time does not accord with many fans expectations of instant success.
     
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