A Message for Labour Brexiteers

I know a lot of the working class Tories like to paint this picture, but I see very little demonising of those with aspirations, as they used to say ‘I’m alright jack’. I’ve worked hard and brought up my kids and I’m now beginning to enjoy the fruits of my labour. And everyone else should have the opportunity to do the same.

but it’s not demonising to point out that business owners and landlords are the real recipients of the welfare state. Good luck to em, but let them at least be honest about it.

 

Nonsense Donny, how would wages be uniform ? I’m not doffing my cap to anyone, I acknowledge that we don’t all have the same level of intelligence and acumen, we’re not all the same comrade, and as for picking pockets it’s those who knowingly contribute nothing whilst holding their hand out you need to look to

 

Shame my point is validated so swiftly, such a shame.

 

No I havent, I wouldnt know wether it was or it wasnt, if she’s asked for her contract to be ammended to two days how is it benefit fraud ??

 

so not immigrants. Which is where you started.

 

They know best DWL, I stopped commenting on Brexit debates cos it’s like drawing teeth. Two legs bad, four legs good. We’ll ignore Macdinnell’s houses, Corbyn’s pension pot, Abbott’s private education for her kids. It’s convenient to do so when dismissing aspiration.

 

No it’s not, my point was we cant find the money to look after our own but we can find the money to look after so called asylum seekers.

 

it wasn’t. Why lie when it’s all typed out above.

 

I made choices which meant I could and did afford it. I didn't go abroad for a few years which meant I saved a few thousand. When my mates were going out getting bladdered and throwing £200 away on a Friday night I went for quieter nights out which meant spending about 10% of that. I didn't spend £300 on designer clothes that nobody even notices or cares about.

And I saved enough to have a decent deposit, I looked at properties and bought one which cost roughly double what several in Barnsley were for sale at and triple what some are.
As I've said before, I have sky, season ticket. Eat takeaways, drive a car and do everything other people do. Why? Because my life choices have put me in that position.

Keep telling people they'll never afford a house and they will throw their money away because it's pointless saving up. Make them realise just how possible it really is and they are far more likely to save money because they can see an end goal.

By the way there's are two bed houses ready to move into for sale for under £40k in Barnsley. What's the deposit needed there? 5percent? £2k?
Rent a property in Barnsley for £275 a month and you will rack up that deposit sharpish.

Or you can do like people I work with do.
One unnamed 19 year olds spending this year (that I know of)
Holiday to Greece: £700
Spending money for holiday: £1k
Spending on FIFA 'packs' in the last week alone: £400
Gold chain: £400
Casino (3 trips, £500 each time): £1500
Tracksuit: £300
Fags: £3000 (1 pack a day, £10 a pack)
Total unnecessary spending: £7300

 

If she has genuinely, as you stated, lowered her earned income in order to claim more benefit. Then that is benefit fraud, and as a ‘right thinking’ person you should report that to the proper authorities.

you’ve posted twice that you know she’s done it. Now you’re saying you don’t know if she did? Make your mind up fella, and do the right thing.

 

Oddly we ignore you slagging off labour because it’s irrelevant.
Those of us with an IQ in double figures worked out Corbyn was a brexiteer years ago.
as always this isn’t a binary question, there’s nuance.

You can’t defend the prime minister by simply saying Corbyn would be worse, it’s both not proven and irrelevant.

not everything can be settled by a binary choice.

 

I honestly didnt realise it was fraud Donny, but how would you prove that her motive was to lower her income so she could claim, rather than what she says about it being for childcare reasons ?

 

That’s not for you to prove. that’s someone else’s job. You just supply enough evidence to make it worth an investigation. I mean you’ve told all of us, so you must have some evidence

 

Is that right? Because I know dozens of parents who deliberately choose not to work (as many hours) because they know they gain benefits by not earning as much. Known them do it all my life to be honest and while I've never agreed with it I didn't realise it was illegal

 

Me neither, thought it was standard fecklessness. Who’d have thought it.

 

And therein lies the problem Donny, she’s told her workmates who’ve told me, I’ve passed the tale onto you.

 

With maths like that, it's ironic your username is Einstein. At £400 a month it would take 25 months to save 10k, not 25 years. i.e. 2 years.

 

No let's focus on tax Dodgers, my taxes have been paid in full why shouldn't they?

 

I understand there was a contingency fund (sorry, I don't know the name of it) set up by Labour when in government that was supposed to fund the extra pressure on the NHS, education etc, which was expected due to the influx of EU citizens. I also understand that the fund was scrapped by the tory government.