A Second Lockdown?

It's a great plan, until you realise you need to section off all the vulnerable, all their family, all carers and all carers families. Then any support for the carers.

That's a lot of people that are not allowed to even go to the shop. Or get petrol. Or break down. Or take deliveries.

 

It's pretty clear the most vulnerable need shielding far better. The next highest infection rate is for the large majority among young people who are studying and are very low risk. I am happy for hospitality that it shows them to be some of the safest places to be. No way should pubs/restaurants have to shut again. People need some leisure places open to relax in.

 

That's how I see it, would love to know how we're meant to solve this.

 

Agree. I have to travel with college students who obviously aren't in a bubble, yet flout distancing rules by sitting together. Greeting each other by kissing and going "girlfriend".

The youth simply don't care and I honestly think younger people are more immature than they ever have been.

 

Definitely mate, he can hardly follow up the Chief Speculation Officer and the Chief Carefully Chosen Misleading Graph Scales Officer today with an announcement that he isn’t going to do anything tomorrow can he?

 

Whats the source of that graph please?

 

It would make them all look very foolish if he did.

With that in mind, I expect them to announce an air bridge with America and all expense paid ‘covid holidays’ to Miami.

 

Trip to Ve’Rona in Italy?

 

Loko posted it here....

http://barnsleyfc.org.uk/threads/a-second-lockdown.295344/page-7

 

No, I don’t think I’ve said that. Why are you making stuff up? Is it because you’re not confident enough in your argument?

 

So, if something that isn't happening happens, we're in trouble? But might happen. But we don't know. What a way to run a government.
There should have been a "If a moderately slow increase continues" graph as well. Simple, shameful scaremongering.
It’s an incredibly infectious disease, been around since at least January, spreading like wildfire until we even thought about doing something about it, yet about 8% of you have had it & 17% in London?!
Can it be both of those things?

I could be wrong on all of the above and these guys (hopefully) know a lot more than me. Would be nice if they would have taken a few questions on it.

 

Nicola just said that further restrictions in Scotland will happen within 48 hours.
She is to have a telephone call with Johnson laying out Scotland’s position and telling him he must make decisions immediately. If not we go it alone. But she’d much rather have a 4 country co operation in the battle with COVID.

 

Whitty and Vallance showed why they never do press conferences alone. They are so lacking in charisma it should have been at 11 pm to send us all sleepy ready for bed. Out they come saying what Cummings sorry Boris wants them to in presenting the worst case scenario and showing no optimism and giving the nation some hope to cling on to. No mention of T cells.

 

I don’t know if there’s a pay-grade in the land that covers this to be honest. It’s an impossible decision.

The problem is that if you allow the virus to get out of control, the vulnerable realistically cannot have any contact with anyone that has been in contact with anyone outside of this vulnerable ‘bubble’. If allowed to spread like that there’s such a high risk of getting it from absolutely anywhere that it’s impossible to manage. The vulnerable, their household, carers and their households could not have any contact with the outside world. That’s a hell of a lot of people that can’t go shopping, get petrol, break down or take deliveries.

This should already have happened and honestly it’s criminal that it hasn’t.

Again this should have been done already. But there still contact there with delivery drivers etc. It’s a massive risk if the virus is rampant.

I think this should have been done years ago, but we all know how that’s gone. A test only covers someone until the next time they come in contact with someone that’s not been tested recently or had no contact with anyone though.

As was mentioned today by Prof. Whitty, as you increase your own risk, you increase that of others. Anyone you come in contact with or who comes in contact with them. Eventually this will reach someone vulnerable.

What should have happened months ago is a proper contact tracing app. One using the Google and Apple APIs, as so many other countries have done. But no. We knew better didn’t we. Dom’s mate got the contract and failed to deliver and now we’ve got nothing. Good job Boris.

 

Charisma? You’re watching for the wrong reasons if you’re hoping to be entertained.