According to the Chron - it says a sticking point is that

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  1. Dys

    Dyson Well-Known Member

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    I just think...

    ...that those who wanted Davey out don't care who we bring in as long as it's not Davey. Like SM has said Davey had one track record - keeping us in this division. Now it's up to Robins or whoever else to prove they can do that as well.
     
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    If thats true and its a big if

    Any manager who would sign for us under those terms is someone we shouldnt want.

    Obviously it depends on really what is meant though
     
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    Dog Lover me

    through and through
     
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    Are you also going to scweam and scweam and scweam until you're sick?
     
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    RE: Also from the Rotherham Advertiser

    :D:D:D

    woof woof?!?
     
  6. Gue

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    Be fair

    He's not got to Supertyke's level yet.
     
  7. BRF

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    I don't think that's necessarily the case

    First of all Davey has gone. He's clearly not coming back. People aren't trying to dance on his grave by appointing a replacement. The replacement has nothing to do with Davey. Whether some people have it in for Simon Davey personally (which I think is silly if it is the case) or not - it was the right time to let him go.

    Since Davey has gone I think we've seen a good deal of conjecture about who should take over with alsorts of people throwing alsorts of names around. Most people have had their say and we heard some bizarre names getting called.

    I think a lot of people had Robins in mind as a realistic candidate that was a reasonable proposition - so although there wasn't a massive outcry for him as the most popular first choice, I think a lot of people can get behind his appointment because they saw him as a viable second or third choice (and of course, there are some who had him as their first choice). I think it's natural that there should be a certain amount of anxiety about getting something sorted out. It looks like Robins is likely and nobody wants to be getting on his back with negativity before he's even arrived.

    As for the next manager having to keep us up - well I think we all regard that as the measure of miminal success (although this season particularly, it may be the sole objective). Being fair to Davey - I expect the new man to come in and deliver what Simon Davey could not deliver, and that means Barnsley Football Club climbing the league table a bit, and not just falling back on the 'we didn't get relegated' thing.

    For the record - I though Simon Davey was going to get us relegated this year. I thought in March he might get us relegated last season. The form continued with the start of the new season and he hadn't addressed the big issues in defence. I genuinely believed we were going to get relegated under Simon Davey eventually. We just were not progressing on the field of play.

    It goes without saying that the new manager will deserve time, support and patience - but his appointment is not about avoiding relegation, and it's not about getting rid of Simon Davey - it's about more than that in the long term.

    Saying 'If we get relegated I'll say I told you Davey was a good manager' is a bit futile for a number of reasons. If we appoint Robins, and if he gets us relegated, it wouldn't mean that Davey wouldn't get us relegated this year either. If we appoint Robins and he takes us to midtable safety, it doesn't detract from the achievements that Davey made in keeping us up (particularly in his first and second season). What is the point in playing the 'I told you so' game?

    I think it's fairer on the new guy that comes in to just let him do his work and not try to overshadow him with comparisons to Simon Davey or anyone else. For me there are some who were so Pro-Simon Davey that they can't let go - even if that is to the detriment of their support for the new man or the club. Now that is strange.
     
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    Not yet, I'm hopeful that it won't either.
     
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    She's bought a new car. And it's not a RR Vogue much to my chagrin.
     
  10. S.M.

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    The benchmark for any new manager

    is bettering the previous one. Davey kept us up 3 times, and nothing or nobody can convince me that he couldnt have done that again this time. If we go down under Robins, the comparison is fair and he will have failed where Davey had succeeded.

    Simple.
     
  11. Gue

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    RE: The benchmark for any new manager

    Maybe puts Davey's first (half) season in charge into perspective ?</p>

    That'll do it.
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  12. S.M.

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    Robins is inheriting a squad

    a million miles better than that Davey inherited. FACT. That said, I'd say the Championship has got tougher.
     
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    RE: Robins is inheriting a squad

    But also with no left back, no defensive cover, no pace, no structure in midfield, no confidence and an injured first choice keeper.</p>

    Defenders and pace at the back needed desperately for me. Hope whoever comes in is ready to hit that loan market.
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    El Haimour, who exactly is he a million times better than?

    Stephen Hawking?
     
  15. Gue

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    Don't talk rot

    The nature of this league never ever changes.
     
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    RE: El Haimour, who exactly is he a million times better than?

    Robbie Williams. Heckinbottom or Kozluk?
     
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    Robinswatch

    witcockart.
     
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    Yeah, right. And Diego Leon was a tough tackling midfielder too wasn't he? nt
     
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    Actually

    I'd probably have Togwell before Colace, but most on here would disagree. You get the point though, I reck.
     
  20. Isl

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    Oh god I hope not. I was at Davey's last match. I didn't boo once.

    Proper fan.
     

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