Air heat exchanger’s

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  1. Gimson&theBarnsleys

    Gimson&theBarnsleys Well-Known Member

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    But then there's the inbuilt carbon footprint when you replace existing with new materials - brick, cement etc.
     
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    But this is just another extension of our hubris. Creating toxic waste that will last for outrageous periods of time. We scar and destroy and effect by our development through our existence and how we live has become less and less sustainable. And thats before Africa and South America develops and catches up with the rest of civilisation.
     
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    More than likely you will need all new radiators and pipework as the pumps tend to need 22/28mm pipes and radiators need to be between 2 and 3 times bigger. If you want your water as hot as it currently is you'll also need to use an immersion heater.
     
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    Globsl warming is likely to effect wind patterns more than the minute quantity of energy taken out by turbines. Notice how calm it has been this year compared to normal; I wonder if this is due to shifting wind patterns caused by climate change?
     
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    This isn't selling it to me!
     
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    Fuel tax and road tax are not ring-fenced for road maintenance. The original road-tax was but became Vehicle Excise Duty decades ago, fuel tax has never been. Road maintenance is paid for out of general taxation, Council Tax in the case of roads maintained by councils and all the other taxes for nationally maintained roads (trunk routes, motorways etc). But yes you are right that taxation will be moved from fuel duty as IC vehicles become less common and thus consume less fuel, where it moves to is an interesting question. It would be deeply unpopular if it went on energy since people without an EV would be paying more than they really should be. A mileage tax as you suggest may be the way to go but I'm not sure how it would be calculated, ANPR seems the obvious answer but would be another way that the state would be monitoring people and would also be deeply unpopular. I honestly don't know the answer.
     
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    When we bought our house 3 years ago, the person who did the survey wrote that we had a water tank in the loft that should be removed (I’m guessing as we have a combi boiler). I’ve wondered at times, but not enough to actually do any research, if there’s any reason in particular why it should be removed. Is it just to make more space in the loft? As there was no compelling reason that we were aware of, and it sounds like a faff and an expense, we just left it there - it’s not like I ever see it. It now sounds like that was the right thing to do?
     
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    I think the risk is if they leak? But I suppose it's been drained.
     
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    No compelling reason to remove it, just gave us more space to dump sht!
     
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    We probably would have had we been getting the new boiler fitted and just included it as part of the works but moving into a house and getting someone in to just do that seemed pointless, especially as we moved from a one bed to a three bed so had nothing to put in the loft anyway!
     
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    Father in law had one. It was disappointing to say the least, water temp was tepid at best. You were never warm and the shower was in-shiver-out in 2 mins. He switched to storage heaters and an immersion heater/tank for the shower/hot water using green leccy.
     
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    Bet that's changed now!
     
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    We have a Christmas tree up there but I don’t think there’s anything else. We’ve learned to live very simply, being in a 1 bed for 9 years and student housing before that. We even have a garage now too so extra storage space there if needed. It’s all a bit strange still.
     
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    That will be the header tank for the old style boiler, which would have fed the copper hot water cylinder - which I assume has been removed to provide additional storage in place of the airing cupboard. The cylinder will be the more expensive thing to put back, the tank in the loft is probably just a big square plastic thing and not so costly to restore. So yes it will save money but not much.
     
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    I wonder if the airing cupboard was our wonderful big pantry. I used to love the airing cupboard at my nans (weird thing to love but there we are) but I'd rather have my pantry!
     
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    A gas engineer might be able to confirm, but "dead legs" of pipework harbouring water can lead to legionella, so it is usually recommended to remove them i think.
     

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