Aliens, ancient humans or other?

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  1. Marc

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    As with all things, my belief system is based entirely on evidence. Given the sheer size of the universe and infinity theory, I understand why people assume there must be something else out there. However IMO there has been no empirical evidence so far. So until it's scientifically proven, it's a largely pointless assumption for me. Theories on parallel universe, multiverse and planets occupied entirely by unicorns are equally valid, and equally pointless.
     
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    If they find evidence of life on Mars doesn't that mean we're ready to be wiped out according to the Fermi Paradox? It would be a deeply depressing find. That said, nobody knows. Just speculation.
     
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    I don't really know much about Fermi but I reckon there will be microbes on Mars and highly likely inside the seas of Europa. I don't think we have any other intelligent life forms within our solar system so don't think this is to do with the paradox?
     
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    I do get that but you're wrong aren't you. There's no evidence that unicorns have ever existed or that parallel universes exist. There is however absolute concrete proof of planets with life on them. It's called earth. The debate is whether one of the other few trillion planets also has life.

    What you are arguing is that when Christopher Columbus and his mates landed on new unexplored islands that it was equally as valid to suggest he might find pink unicorns on it as that he might find humans living there. Of course we all know that there was a much higher chance if him finding humans
     
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    By your reasoning then, would it be fair to assume that if life exists on a similar type world to us you would expect it to evolve in a similar way, and humanoids are the most likely form of creature to make it to the top of the evolutionary tree?

    As per my previous comment about evolution happening the same way on earth numerous times, it’s likely that a similar process would happen on similar planets.

    If there is life on wholly oceanic worlds it may well be different from Earth, or life that evolves to exist in the gas clouds of Jupiter etc, or even pan-dimensional energy beings from worm holes.

    But life that we would easily recognise as life is likely to be similar to life on Earth.
     
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    No I doubt it and I've never said it but the discussion about whether life exists on other planets is far more valid than the merits of pink unicorns
     
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    Maybe we all look humanoid because that's the best way to evolve. Like the fictitious Romulans, Vulcans, Ferengi and Klingons. All humanoid.
     
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    It’s either that or we have a terrible lack of imagination.

    I think there is a lot of benefit to being a humanoid shape and wouldn’t be surprised if it was a common form for creatures/aliens to evolve into. Binocular vision, opposable thumbs, etc etc
     
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    I hate aliens. Does that make me a racist?
     
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    Just a xenophobe
     
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    Going back to the article on the Fermi Paradox article. I reckon we're too hostile or primitive to be made contact with. Likewise if we did achieve the technological advances necessary for space travel they would probably class us as a threat to them and wipe us out.
     
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    Aliens most certainly landed in the UK. Unfortunately when she was informed of this Cruella Braverman had them locked up on a barge in dorset.
     
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    If it’s readily accepted that Dinosaurs ruled the earth and those Dinosaurs ceased due to a meteor hitting the earth and from that disaster life on our planet changed and eventually we emerged from that does that mean on another planet that wasn’t hit by an asteroid there is a completely different form of life in existence?
     
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    Yeah. Excellent point. Brain Cox suggested that there might be parallel universes too whereby we haven't been hit by an asteroid and we're actually Dinosaurs or Lego men etc.
     
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    If they are extraterrestrial, they are only about a foot tall , so probably f@cked off when they saw the size of humans
     
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    It reminds me of the films: Batteries not included, Hellboy and MIB. Why do we automatically assume that Alien life forms are the same size as us? What if there are microscopic life forms. Going back to atoms. They can be the size of whole universes dependant on the scale.
     
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    Reminds me of Men in Black and we are all part of a stations locker
     
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    A few scientists/palaeontologists have suggested that had the asteroid(s) not hit, there was the potential for theropod dinosaurs to evolve human like intelligence, and they already walked upright, had grasping “hands” and binocular vision.
     
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    That would tie in with that humanoid in Peru. It had birdlike qualities.
     

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