ALL BARK AND NO BITE

Yes you’re right they running they’re blood to water to get us our worst results in our history !
The fact some of the players were running teams ragged last season and were deemed good enough are just not getting the run of the green this season and are putting in the same effort even though they being played out of position they just looking as though they can’t be bothered chasing back etc .

 

Just name names today. That's all I'm asking.

I thought that they all tried hard today. You don't.

Who didn't?

 

Well if you thought they all tried hard today good luck to you , just beware any Nigerian Princes asking for your bank details .
I’m saying they didn’t all try as they have done previous and results and performances have bore me out imo .

 

OK well I think they failed today because they weren't good enough.

You think that they failed because they didn't try hard enough.

So you think that this lot are good enough. Just not organised properly. I think they're just not good enough.

I think we've sorted it.

 

We actually have a bark?! I thought it was a ******* whimper!!

 

I think your miles off as usual . I don’t think some of them tried and can and have played better and tried harder in past games .
Maybe because of the hapless duo of so called first team coaches that have come in this season and the inferior playing staff that have come in ?
Whatever the reason they haven’t been at their best most of this season and today underlined it .
If you think none of them could have put anymore effort in after watching what they can do then that’s your misguided judgement imo .

 

Well I'll try one more time and ask who didn't put 100% in today?

If you can't answer that one then I'll leave it.

 

Obviously I wasn’t going to name names on an open forum who do you think you are Columbo?
If that’s your only response I’ll leave it at that

 

George Robledo, yer a legend yerself... did you ever see Johny Kelly?
Did you see his grandson come on here asking about him about five years ago?

 

I kind of half agree with you. Collectively they're not good enough.

But I actually think that around half of the team are individually good enough to play Championship football. However, I believe that a combination of:
- poor pre-season preparation
- a lack of stability due to relentless injuries (including Covid absences)
- poor tactics/formations/selections by inept head coaches
- an absence of motivation from the technical area
- playing alongside other squad members who are not Championship level players
- a lack of one or two older heads on the pitch

has resulted in such a poor run of results that confidence is now rock bottom.

Take Jordan Williams, for example. No-one will ever convince me that this lad can't have a decent career at this level. And I agree with your comment above - there is no lack of effort on his part. But he's a shadow of the player he was.

Ditto Styles, Helik, Woodrow, Brittain, Anderson, Morris.

 

Better have a word with Jimmy Viz then.

His MOTM is a bit redundant if you can't comment upon who's put the effort in and done well, and who hasn't. Cos you can't name names.

I'm not sure who you're worried about. Why is there an "obviously " about who you can't name as not trying? It's only your opinion. Supertyke is not so shy.

One of the principal purposes of a forum like this is to appraise the merit of any particular player. On any particular day.

I'm quite prepared to say which player's done OK or not. On the day. I'm far more restrained than most on here.

Everyone put their best in today. Because of how mediocre we are we lost. End of.

 

No they didn’t for reasons I e been prepared to state above and not just a “ I think they did as you’ve put .

 

I don't get why we are so afraid of shooting. Back pass Benson is the biggest culprit for never wanting to pull the trigger.

 

Jordan Williams is a bit of a maverick in our steaming pile.

Today he showed sense and control and pace.

At other times he has been directly responsible for being positionally idiotic such that we have lost goals and thus games.

I think he will be a late developer and he has a sense of forward movement that makes me think that, whatever we see now, he will be the one who eventually goes for big bucks (if anyone will).

I am in a mass minority in thinking that Struber was our most sensible reasonable coach. I am in a minority in thinking that he had us play the right kind of football with the right kind of result.

But i don't think he could have made a silk purse out of this sow's arse of a squad. He lacked a proper striking edge but made the best out of what he'd got. He bailed out cos he knew what was coming.

This lot don't play it about as well as Struber's. And even Chaplin squeezed a few goals - this lot can't.

 

First Half - Dull. Looked lost. Toothless, Town constantly overloading out wide and could probably have been more in front. Very poor selection* given that this was the last meaningful game of the season. Heart sank seeing the names of Palmer, Iseka etc and why Halme who has not played in ages? Halme duly gave the ball away in midfield and Town nipped in behind the gap Halme had left, 1-0. And for mine Iseka put next to no effort in and the sum total of what I can remember Palmer doing was three passes straight to Town players.

Second Half - Better selection although it was crying out for a second striker instead of Palmer (which didn't happen until way too late). And then lo and behold, Morris lines up wide left*. Spirited but toothless second half display ensues with literally nobody, nada, zilch, nothing in the middle up front*. Amongst the many aimless balls in to their box I counted at least four half decent ones but we quite literally had nobody in there and it was like a walk in the park for the Town defence.

* - for these alone PA should go - 1-0 down in the last meaningful game of the season against Town reserves and we don't even try to go for it.

On a positive I enjoyed Bassi's display and maybe with Morris and Woodrow in front of him at some point we may just score a goal before the season's over.

 

He bailed out because he saw what coming ?
The Playoffs?
This lot that started the season were a couple of players short of the team that got us to the playoff.
This board decided to weaken the team with young and inferior additions to what was a decent Champipnship team .
They also appointed inferior coaches which you say isn’t the problem .
We are in trouble because of the overall recruitment , we are in the worst season for years because of that and some of the original team chalking fek on it .

 

Which members of the original team have chalked ""fek on it"?

In your opinion? I gather you can't say.

Anyway, I'll give you an out.

Last season was fantastic, but when the coach naffs off with the staff and the reason why we did so well in a freak season, is the idea to carry on praising the Emperor who has taken our clothes?

I would have Val back, but not if kick off involves booting it straight into the stands. Nobody else in Oakwell would either when the East Stand is full, apart from a few.

So it would need to be a bit more nuanced.

He's been sacked at WBA for a reason. I'm not sure if it's because they don't like carpet football or don't like losing. or both.

Looking back, we needed Val and his tactics and Mowatt and Dike in order to be one season wonders. The stars aligned for a while. For us.

We need to get out of League 1, which we've been quite good at recently. Get Stendel back in to do that if Val won't come back.

 

Struber went for the dollars as most coaches do these days so whatever he saw coming as long as the pay was more than he could get elsewhere he’d have stayed .
The point is members of the original team aren’t giving what they can or have previously given and whether I name names or not does not detract from that and if you believe that they’re giving everything in our worst and probably the Chsmpionships worst performance ever .
I know from how they are playing that that is not the best they can play or couldn’t put more effort in .
It may not result in a higher position but it would stop the utter capitulation we are subjected to and unlike you I don’t think we are that bad a team, especially after some of the performances that can’t muster a shot on target whilst giving their all .
To be as bad as we have been of late with some of the squad is not solely down to being **** .

 

We do have a couple of wide men.
Chien and Conman.

 

Struber went for the dollars as most coaches do these days so whatever he saw coming as long as the pay was more than he could get elsewhere he’d have stayed .
The point is members of the original team aren’t giving what they can or have previously given and whether I name names or not does not detract from that and if you believe that they’re giving everything in our worst and probably the Chsmpionships worst performance ever .
I know from how they are playing that that is not the best they can play or couldn’t put more effort in .
It may not result in a higher position but it would stop the utter capitulation we are subjected to and unlike you I don’t think we are that bad a team, especially after some of the performances that can’t muster a shot on target whilst giving their all .
To be as bad as we have been of late with some of the squad is not solely down to being **** .