All well and good slating the Govt for being vague....

In that case they should be supplying every company now still working with adequate ppe construction,public transport, postal workers,private dentists etc.

 

Presumably due the way the immune system attacks itself as well as the virus.

 

But the risk in care homes is higher at this moment in time, and has I said the are finding it hard to source these products for the front liners, if in plentiful supply then yes other industries should be supplied.

 

We had weeks and weeks notice I'm sure the carehome owners were ringing around frantically trying to stock up on ppe for there workers.....

 

So did the Government. I`ve stated my reasons, not in this for an argument.

 

Yes so did the government who failed to supply the nhs. it isnt there responsibility to supply the private care homes who also had plenty of time to stock the ppe for there own staff.

 

There`s not a whole lotta stocking going on. G`day sport.

 

The clients for who we act and have furloughed staff have had to either by instruction such as hairdressers, pubs, restaurants, or their supply chain has been severely disrupted, or their customers have closed, companies in the construction industry where the main contractors have closed sites.

I can't think of any of the clients who have furloughed purely by choice.

 

The government, through local authorities and NHS bodies, are ultimately responsible for the adult residential care system. Huge numbers of residents have their fees subsidised or paid in full by councils and/or the NHS (where nursing care is needed). There are also some residents who have sufficient money or property value to pay their own way, but many are nowhere near that level of wealth.

In my experience, local councils set the weekly rate paid to care homes as low they can get away with. The rate increases each year, usually based on an agreed local formula, so it will allow for things such as a known increase in the minimum wage or the impact of the government's workplace pensions policy. The rate doesn't, however, allow for exceptional unplanned items. One way or another, wholesale provision of brand new PPE to care homes, in order to cope with an unforeseen pandemic, will be funded by taxpayers - either directly by central government or through an increase in the weekly rate paid by councils (and thereby by local council tax payers).

I'm sure care homes run at a profit, but if it was a huge money making enterprise, there would be far more care homes than there are, and no waiting lists.

 

The thing with care homes though is the only people supposed to be going in or out are staff or deliveries so why is it spreading so easily regardless of the issue regarding PPE. Surely sanitisers are being used?

 

I can't help thinking that this was a case of the horse bolting. Once it gets in, it's in. Staff by necessity will get very close to residents and I guess it only takes one person going in who is asymptomatic and you're stuffed.

 

I've got a darker theory and it surrounds the people that actually run the care homes. I've seen videos of how some elderly residents are treated. The same people I doubt would care how long they washed their hands or used alcohol gel. That has to be a contributory factor.

 

Agree with you there ... which is exactly why Boris would have been better off saying nothing. You are obviously a sensible person, but not everyone is. I guarantee that on Wednesday my teenage son will be wanting off to the city to visit his girlfriend at one of the parks.

 

Will he be social distancing?

 

I like to believe that bad practice is the exception, but it only takes one rotten apple. No different to most other walks of life. I reckon most mechanics are car mad, but every so often you drop on one who can't be arsed and you end up with a shabby service.

 

Agree it is the exception rather than the rule but care home workers are over worked and underpaid, that for me is the danger.

 

It's the beginnings of exponential moaning, something to be avoided at all costs. It is vital that we reduce the M rate to <1 otherwise there will be a second wave of moaning.

Do not moan to anyone outside your household. Avoid moaning on public transport. People who can moan at home should do so. If you must moan at work, wear a mask.

MOAN AT HOME.
PROTECT EARDRUMS.
STIFLE GRIPES.

 

Most Care Homes are well run by dedicated staff who are committed to their job , theirs always the exception though . Respiratory infections are common in Homes and amongst the elderly , most people whose death is recorded as ‘old age’ have probably died of a respiratory infection , that’s why this virulent virus is affecting elderly people . Caring for the elderly in a Home is hands on all the time , lifting , washing soiled residents , helping them to the toilet , dinner table , to bed . If this virus gets into a home it’s a difficult job to contain it , the resident isn’t going anywhere , they won’t be taken to hospital and if staff haven’t got the right PPE they are on a hiding to nothing . Often by the time a resident is showing signs of Corona they have likely infected other residents or staff . They have a an unenviable task in the current circumstances and need all the help and support they can get

 

You quite obviously have no idea what you are talking about. How many care homes do you think are owned by millionaires? Do you know the average money a care home gets to look after it’s residents? Do some research.

 

I'm talking about the private care homes, the people at the very top not the managers. I think it's you who needs to do some research fella.