Animal Rights - Guinea Pig farm closure

Exploited for profit

I am exploited for profit evry single day when i get up for work, my employers don't give me a job for the good of the human race, i was talking about scum that torture animals by chioce for a living. You've involved London bombings and now someone been exploited at work. Come on man.</p>

PS have you got a pet?</p>

 

RE: Exploited for profit

Of course you're explioted, thats how capitalism works. Doesnt mean you have to accept it for yourself or others.

But dont you think there's different levels of exploitation? At least you have access to clean water, at least you had access to an education, decent food, a holiday, protection at work in terms of basic rights, a way of improving your basic lot. Perhaps you'd like to stitch Nike trainers for 50p a day?

No, I dont have a pet.

 

forgot to add....

if you think its ok to use violence against humans who exploit animals, then surely its ok to use violence against humans who exploit other humans?

Or are only animals worth 'fighting for'?

 

RE: Exploited for profit

I understand what your talking about with the whole issue of people been exploited and working for 50p per day, but it hasn't really got anything to do with me saying that i have no sympathy for animal torturing scum bags that work for a profit making organisations.

 

RE: forgot to add....

If innocent humans were been held against there will and tortured of course it's wrong. As it is doing the same to innocent animals.

 

RE: Exploited for profit

No, I agree, directly it hasn't. But that wasnt my original point. Your original comment was,

You appeared to be condoning violence against other people on the basis that they worked somewhere where animals were not being treated correctly. I was trying to work out if you would condone similar violence against humans on the basis that they were buying goods (trainers, t-shirts) which were made in conditions that other people would be similarily appauled by.

 

RE: Exploited for profit

Working in a sweat shop is a million miles away from being caged and having infections injected into your eyes ended in death.

 

RE: Exploited for profit

You don't think being forced to work in cramped dangerous conditions with no health and safety regulations, no workers rights, being paid **** all money and having to live in **** awful conditions with no clean water, no means of escape, and not beingable to get any education for your children is a way to spend your years on earth? Anyway, back on topic........

The point is (which goes right back to my original post about the use of vilolence) is that just as animal rights protesters see animal cruelty as barbaric, other people see the treatment of other humans working in sweatshops as equally barbaric. So....

Question - If it's ok to use violence against humans who contribute to the pain of animals, is it also ok to use violence against humans who contribute to the pain of other humans?

 

Like the Second World War?

Then yes, of course it is

 

RE: Like the Second World War?

You're obviously not going to answer the question, but Im fairly sure deep down you know where Im coming from.

Was Hitler right in using violence? No. Were we right in using violence to defend ourselves, of course we were. Im not saying its right to use violence unless its in self defence. I was just trying to get you to answer and see if you'd apply your own beliefs on animal cruelty to that of humans who suffer through other humans action.

 

one persons terrorists are anothers freedom fighters

 

Totally agree the activists are wrong.

What about the cat that kills a bird? Should that cat be locked up and held or tried by other members of the cat community? What about vegetable rights?

It's like comparing apples and pares?

With power comes responsibilty - we do our best to manage the moral conduct as Human Beings but at the end of the day we have the power, as arrogant as that may seem we do well as a race to hit the middle ground.