Dont disagree but if Hill does get the sack, at least the new manager has some assets to work which the club can cash in on if required to generate him a budget. If you look at what Davey and Hill have done and compare it with Robins, the money generated compared to spent tells a damming story.
Re: Dont disagree I'm not getting started on Davey. You are using a once in a hundred year cup run as a basis of defence for his reign. He also failed to move us forward at all. Iain Hume. £1.2 million. Nuff said.
Re: He seems a decent bloke Giggling. Pint afore Wed game ? Or are you watching it on telly at home in an indifferent manner ?
Re: Dont disagree Robins generated around a million for shackell and hammill did he not? And lets not forget that his budget was swallowed up paying the wages of contracts thrown around during daveys overspending. Davey left us with a few assets but also huge liabilities as well.
Re: Sorry Fiona Whilst fully understanding the passion for the club that the attendees lst night had, and their integrity I would ask the question should ANY confidential matter be discussed in such meetings ? By all means talk about pricing, pies, etc and debate player worth/team selections whatever, but the managers privately held opinion on players ? Player contracts ? No way. If I were the manager and my boss was relaying such things to the public - dressed up as a meeting then there'd be grounds for hell on.
Re: He seems a decent bloke Yes, I'll be shrugging like a disaffected Italian in front of the LCD, sorry. Are you around Boxing day?
Re: He seems a decent bloke Mark Robins brought Butterfield through perfectly. Introduced him into the first team at exactly the right time and played him in the right positions as often as he needed to. As a result JB hit the ground running, perfectly up to speed and with no fear. Keith Hill inherited Butterfield, but his trajectory was already established. Making him captain was a good move, but really anyone could have done that.
With the greatest respect If confidential information emerges during discussions and debates during these meetings, then it is only right and proper for this information to be kept behind closed doors when specifically requested. I do find it bizarre that sneering comments are levelled at those of us who've attended the meetings by people condescendingly claiming they won't attend, as they already know what's going to be said beforehand and refuse to be seen in the pocket of the club, as it were. Yet, when confidential information (rightly or wrongly) is given out at the meeting, the same people then throw a hissy fit if said info isn't then posted on here. If you were to pass onto me information you'd prefer not to be common knowledge, then I'd respect your view and refuse to discuss the issues with anyone else. I wouldn't betray the trust you'd have shown in me. It's no different with Don Rowing, or anyone else for that matter.
I don't understand why Don Rowing is giving out confidential information to a room full of Barnsley fans? Especially a mob recruited from the BBS. If that's not asking for trouble, I don't know what is! Unless he's attempting a cunning bit of reverse psychology, the old tinker!
Perhaps its because those fans got off their backsides and went down and met with Don. Despite a lot of people on here having a go at Don on a regular basis, he has always been approachable.
I didn't go to the last meeting and was a bit annoyed about the secrecy. Having attended last night I understand more how such details come about. The Don promised to answer every question as best he could and to be honest he did. With the amount of questions he was asked there's bound to be a few issues / answers he would rather stay in the room. He could sit there and say no comment to everything and make the meeting completely pointless. He said he wants another meeting in the new year, so all I would say is do your best to attend.
Re: With the greatest respect I'm not knocking anyone for going, and I'm not knocking Rowing for trying to show a willingness to address concerns. Although one has to ask what's the point of the BFCST if a group of supporters have to get their concerns raised in this way, but that's a different issue. What I am saying is that sensitive information shouldn't be divulged. There are things that go on inside any and every business/organisation that aren't for public consumption. I am also by nature cynical and thus have my suspicions as to why such information is allowed to come to light when it shows or has the potential to show one person in a poor light when he's not there to explain his side of things.
Re: Dont disagree To be fair to Davey he couldn't have imagined Hume would nearly be killed on the field of play, thus never reaching his full potential for us and ending up a waste of money in hindsight.
Re: In addition to Vaz Te Butterfield - Played by robins and given valuable experience at the right time and in the right quantities. Inherited by Hill who benefited greatly from the experience Robins had given him and the natural progression that invariably takes place as a player gets older. Davies - Likely to go for next to nothing due to short term contract Stones - Inherited from years of hardwork in the academy. Given debut before being made a scapegoat and dropped from the defence while players like Scott Wiseman kept their place.
Re: In future If folk want to know they can go. Simple as. And put teddy back in't cot yer gret big fairy.