Anybody on here who voted Leave and then Tory...

Doesn’t or shouldn’t matter what the extreme left think, If people think this **** shower of a govt either deserve their support or avoid calling them out because of party loyalty, then they need to have a word with themselves. BTW in today’s politics Extreme left could’ve easily been seen as moderate centralists not too long ago. Basically if somethings wrong call it out instead of hiding behind a their calling me names as well

 

Then they allowed their perception to be guided by right wing press and media. Talk about sheep.

 

It wouldn't be very perceptive as I don't know much about sheep.

 

It’s not just the extreme left.
Whether it’s social media driven or whatever; it’s extremely unhelpful.

The right think it’s a fun tactic to troll the ‘libtards’, the left somehow believe that calling working class Tories ‘stupid’ or ‘racist’ can be part of a sensible debate.

and that’s without examining problems within the left, where traditional working class values are clashing with identity politics.

The Monty Python joke earlier? Funny because it’s true! It’s a simple fact that the left will fracture over the exact definition of LGBTQ, whereas a perfectly reasonable religious right winger will vote for Trump knowing he’s a serial adulterer, fraudster etc.

 

Exactly this. Some of the posters in this thread are clearly ‘centre’ in their views. That’s fine. And therefore I get why they think Starmer is an answer. He couldn’t be any more on the fence if he tried.

 

Anyone who didn’t chose the option of voting for a candidate that could defeat the tories is responsible for what happens in the next 5 years. The moderate middle got Brown 29% when they ignored everyone else.

Racists and xenophobes elected Johnson. Many in the middle waved that through. I hope but doubt they will have buyers remorse but everything that unfolds is on them. Every homeless person every bent contract every brexit **** up it is their choice so their responsibility

 

i door knocked for the Greens in Barnsley at the last election. Between 75% and 90% of those we talked to that said they would vote tory said they would do so because of overt or covert racism.

 

no I knocked on hundreds of doors as did colleagues. The answer given to pretty much all who were supporting Johnsonwas either overt or covert racism. In fairness you don’t think Trump is a racist so I’m not trusting your barometer on this one.

 

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Apart from, perhaps following blindly as they are attributed to do

 

Only 20% or so of the voters in Barnsley Central voted Tory. 30% voted for the Brexit party, and every leftie on here has them ALL down as racists. So you can add a hell of a lot more to your 14 million.

Unless it's a load of tosh of course.

 

Yes, bizarrely Dan Jarvis has Farage to thank for splitting the Tory/Brexit vote and allowing him to win. Without brexit he wins anyway, of course.

 

Yep.

Don't mind Dan Jarvis at all. Except that I had a speculative punt on him for the Labour leadership a while back. Which ended badly.

 

You clearly have strong and honourable views when it comes to politics.

How do you personally feel about working in and promoting an industry that creates the most obscene concentration of wealth of most, if not all, industries in this country?

An industry that is typically owned and funded by globalists, billionaire capitalists and big media corporations, as well as those with questionable human rights associations?

I just find the narrative around politics on here overwhelming at times, yet we are all open to scrutiny.

 

I must be a black one.

 

Thanks for letting me know that I think all these people are racist.

 

Do we? and you try to paint others as the ones who are making generalizations.