Apparently Ed Miliband

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    AthersleyRed Well-Known Member

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    It would be nice to hit net zero as a country, but USA and China (the top 2 CO2 emitters) need to do something about it too, or else our Net zero effort would be akin to trying to stop the flow of a dam bursting with a bucket
     
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    And let's not forget tidal energy.
     
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    Ahh, but what happens when the tide doesn't come in, eh?!!
    Oh, wait.
     
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    China already produces more renewable energy than the rest of the world combined and over 3x more than the USA - and building ~100 nuclear power stations. While they are still using too much coal, they are trying to transition at speed.
     
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    Sorry, but it's complete numptyism. However, if we reduce enough carbon from the atmosphere that will lower the temperature which might lower wind speeds and rain cloud production.
     
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    Wind is less than 30 % you pay for this and conventional station
    s stood doing nothing.
     
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    Don't build it in Skegness.
     
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    We also have interconnections with various other countries to import and export electricity when one country has a surplus of energy.

    Our last coal fired power station at Radcliffe on Saur goes offline later this year.

    There is huge scope for grid scale storage that we haven't even begun to seriously tap into yet.

    The increasing effect of individual consumers using their own solar and battery solutions will continue to lower demand. I can't recall the exact figure, but saw it somewhere recently that we use around 30% less electricity as as country than we did in 1990.

    We will be fine. Things change and adapt. You seem to be throwing out the same old arguments for doing nothing.
     
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    Here you go

    https://e360.yale.edu/features/china-renewable-energy
     
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    My working life was sat in power station control room.
     
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    And plenty of folk on here’s working life was down a pit

    That doesnt make coal generated electricity any more viable long term - or add anything to the argument.
     
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    What are the arguments? Genuine question, no idea where you live or what they're proposing or why you don't want it etc but I find it interesting so figured I'd ask
     
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    Glad it's not just me then
     
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    Kirky boy hard at work
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