As if things weren't bad enough..

Ok so the letter and article that the OP used doesn’t say the bit about hauliers needing to prepare?

Because it does say that, as I said back to another poster I’m not blaming the haulage industry but was adding context to the OP where he omitted those points in the article.

 

This whole situation is so ridiculous

It's maddening to watch the Brexiteers talking around this all with increasingly strained reasoning

Brexit was a stupid idea. The leave campaign lied to everyone to win the referendum, so no surprise they're lying now. If Putin's bots helped make it happen, that might be a good indicator that it was the wrong outcome...

 

Perhaps they should stop causing so many worst case scenarios then!

 

All vehicles must be checked, not necessarily the contents or the driver. All I can say is it is for national security reasons. It's an extremely important check is all I can say.

 

My post was about the people of this country needing to prepare, not the hauliers, who are blameless. How can a haulier prepare the paperwork when he doesn't know what the deal if any will be?
What paperwork can he prepare at this moment? What system will be in place? No one has a clue at the moment so to blame the entire haulage industry is just another example of the shuddering incompetence of this government.

I am more concerned with the consequences of this for the elderly and vulnerable.

I see the comments about "it's just worst case scenario" etc, but this is what the statement says:

"The government says this is not a prediction but an illustration of what could be reasonably expected."

So, it's not a prediction, but it could be reasonably expected.

Reasonably expected?

If that isn't a major clue to how the government see it I don't know what is!

 

Spoiler alert: We don't even know what the paperwork looks like. Let that sink in people!!

 

I love optimism like this it’s so...


Yorkshire

 

As I said, I added context to the post, nothing I have put is about opinion but in black and white on the BBC that you refer to.
It clearly says worse case which is why I added it, in my OP I copied and pasted it straight off the BBC website.

 

Fair comment

 

?? How does that address any of the points I have raised? Obviously we have now entered an era of terrorism, stowaways in numbers seeking to gain access to the UK but technology (heat sensors) etc. did not exist in the early seventies. All checks were visual and manual and record keeping largely paper based and decentralised. We had terrorist threats back then too,
For example.... I once had a visit in Barnsley from a uniformed Customs officer who had driven all the way from Hull asking why we had not brought back the equipment from Europe a couple of months previously. Only when I showed him it did he believe we had. The problem was we had departed via Hull (North Sea ferries) and returned via P&O to Dover. NO communication between the two obviously!!

 

Point being all vehicles have to be checked at the most basic level. Then there's going to be more thorough checks which takes time. Smuggling is more prevalent than in the 1970s and alot more sophisticated and skilled.
Unfortunately there will be delays, not sure 2 days worth but you're looking at multiple hours. Unless like the plan was for at the beginning of the year to open the border and not conduct customs checks.
Folk voted for a secure border and the government were seriously thinking about reclaiming taxes later and opening the gates. I'm sure everyone entering would have contacted HMRC to pay their tax.......

 

Cue mass panic buying. I'm getting my emergency pasta and toilet rolls in early!!

 

That was my main concern in the op Redhelen, though it seems to be a bit lost in translation!
IMHO we all need to be prepared to support our less able neighbours if Brexit things do go "as reasonably expected", coupled with the increasing infection rates and the threat of further restrictions

 

Wait.. I know what we need...

Get Exports Done!

There. That should sort it.

 

The sun rose yesterday,
The sun rose today.
Therefore, the sun will rise tomorrow.

 

I read the other day that 13,000 expats in EU had been written to by their british banks to inform them they should make necessary arrangements to transfer to an EU bank as from 1st January under a no deal scenario, it would be illegal to have a UK bank account in non domicile.

But of course, this govt has it all in hand. We're so glad to have such an honest, detailed, robust, competent, transparent bunch in charge at the time of two monumental crises.

 

The Grayling ferry firm awarded contracts without ferries goes bust owing around 2 million.

 

Rubbish! It is nonsense to state that " it is illegal to have a UK bank account in a country where you are not domiciled"

Whilst true there are certain UK banks impacted and a number of expats in certain countries who are going to have to change banks in the event of no deal, it depends on whether the UK bank is solely domestic e.g. Lloyds (our bank) or whether they have EU subsidiaries. Even then, it also depends on the individual countries treaties with the UK. They are all different.

EU based banks like Santander (Spanish) have a subsidiary company (Santander UK) so they would be an option . The same occurred with Insurance companies. Most of those allied themselves to EU based companies or set up subsidiaries to overcome restrictions.

The banks are currently working through these treaties and writing to those customers impacted. We may or may not be affected. Whilst it is an inconvenience having to change banks and reorganise payments out and in via direct debits etc. it is not insurmountable and certainly not illegal to have bank accounts in countries where you are not domiciles. How do you think people manage who have income in one country and pay bills in that country whilst living in another. Are you saying UK expats people living and working or retired in Australia, US, Canada and other non EU countries currently cannot have UK bank accounts? Why is the EU any different?

Blatant agenda driven scaremongering. Only last year they were reporting that UK pensions would not be payable to expats living abroad. Twaddle!!

 

I don’t want to sound thick but I just don’t understand the first paragraph of your post. Could you enlarge for me please? Sorry to be a pain.