Barnsley put £3m price tag on howard

My prediction

Howard goes for £750k and Simon's airmiles get added to.

 

a Dwayne Mattis equivalent

We spent 50k on Mattis mate. Do you think we have players who are Championship standard? Well they all cost less than 500k matey!!! So you work it out eh??

 

£75k actually for Mattis, £25k extra when we stayed up ...........

........ and yes you can get Championship players for half a million but I think you miss my point, Howard is the captain and leading goalscorer, and has chance of getting 15 to 20 goals this season which will be vital. How many of the current squad will score that many goals, including the forwards? ...... answer = none, hence the need to buy a QUALITY replacement or two, if Howard goes, and they cost more than £500k!

 

RE: £75k actually for Mattis, £25k extra when we stayed up ...........

Thanks for acknowledging Mattis was not a 500k signing. Yes I agree with you there. You make a good point. Obviously if we sell Howard we will not be able to replace him with some1 who is same standard for a 6th of the price. However we should be able to sign a player of enough quality to cover the position and survive in the Championship. The club making a decent profit along the way. Profit that could be used to help clear our debts.

 

RE: £75k actually for Mattis, £25k extra when we stayed up ...........

You've hit on an interesting point there.</p>

Debts vs On field progress. - The Yorks Post ran an article where Cryne rightly paid tribute to the BFC Board for reducing our debts. Now, if an opportunity came along to pretty much wipe them out altogether but it meant getting rid of our most creative player and thus setting us back quite a bit in terms of playing staff what will the board do ? Do they have the bottle to turn down a big money offer ? Granted every player has his price, and in Howard's case &pound;3mill is the absolute bare minimum we ought to be asking for bearing in mind his value as a 1st team player to us.</p>

 

SNAP THEIR HANDS OFF AT OWT NEAR £3M

Bri may be on of our better players but he's far from the finished article, gives the ball away far too much and his decision making is poor. Admittadely stuff he'll learn but personally I think owt over a £1m would be worth taking.

 

And that (in my opinion) is precisely why

.... clubs like ours will stay forever in the lower leagues. That's what happens. How many decent sides sell off their best players, get somebody cheaper, or nobody and end up performing tripe.</p>

If you want to build and you want to perform, you have to draw a line somewhere and attempt to stay near the top. How would people have felt if we'd sold off the likes of Hendry and Marcelle during the promotion season? I'm not saying we're going to get promoted, but you have to try and stake your claim. The club, weunderstand, is on a decent financial footing, and can survive. If that's the case, why sell a bloody good asset. An asset who, if we continue to do well, may bring the crowds back to Oakwell.</p>

Must middle to smaller size clubs forever exist to feed the big boys?</p>

 

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Yes is the answer...

tho we might not like it. £3m is a massive a mount of money.

 

£3m could buy out the council-we could own the ground again nt

 

Dont forget - yes we may turn down an offer, but what if Brian wanted to leave?

 

disagree

£3Million is a lot of money to us as a club which I believe we would be foolish to turn down..

If the lad wants to better himself and we get a good deal for him then I for one would let him go....

 

Trust in Davey to bring in a quality foreigner for £750,000.

Not that I want Howard to go, mind you.

 

Educate me

What physical benefits or gain would that bring at this time?

 

RE: Educate me

rent free period is over -we now pay rent to the Council

 

Any idea how much? nt

 

If , and it's a big IF ,

A Premiership club offered £3m for Brian Howard , I think the club & player would find it very difficult to turn down the deal . Also , if we're asking that sort of transfer fee for one of our players , are we paying the sort of salary that goes along with the asking price ? It seems only fair to do so .
Should Everton actually be one of the clubs who are interested in Brian , I wonder if a player-plus-cash deal involving Anderson De Silva would be on the cards ?

 

We would have some assets again!

We might be able to &quot;sweat&quot; them as well.

 

how do you know this?

I thought the whole idea was that no one person owned the club and the ground so we couldn't get into a position like we did before PC. With the threat of selling up!

 

RE: Any idea how much? nt

don't know-this just mentions a lease but not how much(29) CABINET – RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL – EXTRACTED MINUTEJoint Acquisition of Land and Property at Oakwell, BarnsleyMoved by Councillor Houghton;Seconded by Councillor Thomson; andRESOLVED that the following recommendation of the Cabinet meeting held onthe 4th September, 2003 be approved and adopted:-that the Council note the Cabinet’s view that the continued existence of aprofessional Football Club in Barnsley is of crucial importance to the social, economic andenvironmental well being of the Borough, for the reasons outlined; and that subject to duediligence;823COUNCIL MEETINGMINUTE NO. 28(i) the Council enter into a Joint Venture with Mr. P. Cryne, jointly to acquire the landand property at Oakwell, currently in the ownership of Barnsley Holdings Ltd and shown on theplan attached to the report at Appendix B;(ii) the Council pay £2m for a 50% share in the Joint Venture;(iii) the Council advance a further £1m to the Joint Venture Company, either as a loanor in the form of redeemable preference shares, secured against the proceeds of development of anypart of the land and property acquired that is not required for the continuation of professionalfootball in Barnsley nor the Football Centre of Excellence, such that the first call on any suchproceeds will be the repayment of this advance;(iv) the Borough Secretary be instructed to conclude a Joint Venture Agreement whichgives effect to the above and includes provisions within the Agreement which:-(a) establishes the objective for the Joint Venture as being facilitating to thecontinuation of Professional League Football in Barnsley;(b) ensures that the land and property needed for the continued operation of BarnsleyFootball Club and the Football Centre of Excellence can be available to the Clubunder a lease from the Joint Venture Company for as long as the Club requiresthem, maintains their responsibilities under the Lease, and is trading as aProfessional Football Club;(c) supports limited development on those parts of the land and property which canreasonably be developed whilst complying with the above to enable the repaymentof the advance from the Council and the production of a return for the JointVenture Partners;(d) allows the transfer of equity to a third party, or the establishment of a charge on theassets, by either party to the Joint Venture with mutual agreement and consent,subject at all times to the terms of the Joint Venture Agreement;(e) requires all development to be with the consent of parties to the Joint VentureAgreement;(vi) the Borough Secretary and Executive Director (Financial Resources) be instructedto agree a Lease with the Barnsley Football Club, jointly with the Council’s Joint Venture partner,Mr. P. Cryne, with an appropriate rental arrangement linked to the revenue earned by the FootballClub in its Football and trading activities;(vii) the Borough Secretary be authorised to conclude such other agreements ordocuments as are required to give effect to these decisions;(viii) Council nominate two Directors to serve on the Joint Venture Company, andattendance at meetings of this body to be confirmed as an Approved Duty;(ix) the item be included in the Capital Programme and released in accordance withFinancial Regulation 2.7(a).824COUNCIL MEETINGMINUTE NO. 28In pursuance of Standing Order No. 15, on the requisition by Councillor Redfordand supported by more than ten other Members, voting on the motion was carried out by roll call asfollows:-In favour of the motionCouncillors Andrews, Bates, Bird, Bostwick, Bristowe, Brook, Brook-Gardiner, Brown, Cave,Cawthorne, Cullum, Davies, Denton, Guest, Hancock, Hayward, Houghton, Howard, Jenkinson,Kyte, Mathers, Morgan, P. Newman, W. Newman, Parkinson, Picken, Punt, Rae, Redford, Rowley,Ryan, Sanderson, Sheard, Smith, Stokes, Swaine, Thomson, Vodden, Wilde, Wilson, C.C. Wraithand R. Wraith.Against the motionCouncillors P. Birkinshaw, S. Birkinshaw, M.B. Brankin, M.P. Brankin, Fisher, Hawkins andHinchliff.AbstentionCouncillor MiddletonThe motion was duly declared carried and agreed accordingly (all Members presentat the time of the vote actually voted).