Barton found guilty

RE: Of course it is, it's descriminating based on race. That's what racism is.

Our excuse is that the bloody woman was slacking off again!

Any male judge will sympathise with us. And the sentencing of a female judge will be overturned anyway, because let's be honest, employment is a blokes thing.

 

RE: Why is it worse?

leaving aside your laughable attempts to be down with the kids, racism is just one of a number of factors affecting sentence. For example you could smack someone once in the street, they hit their head and die. Or you could lie in wait for someone and stab them 100 times. The latter will get a longer sentence.

 

Of course racism matters

And if the prosecution also want to charge them with that then bring it right on. But there should be no difference between charges of murder. Whichever reason you do it, it's wrong, and making a distinction between different cases is ludicrous. It's saying that killing your white neighbour is better than killing your black one (if you're white) or the opposite if you're black, which is total crap.

 

RE: Why is it worse?

<p align="left">But that's because the former is manslaughter and the latter is murder.</p><p align="left">Are you sure you've got a law degree? ;-)</p>

 

RE: Of course racism matters

So you're saying all murders should result in same sentence? Is that what you're saying? Really? That a 90 yr old bloke that smothers his cancer ridden wife should be locked up for the same period as Ian Huntly, for example?

 

I understand that

And obviously they should carry different sentences, but in similar situations the same sentencing should apply. If a bloke lies in wait for someone and stabs them 100 times, he should receive the same sentence whatever the colour of the victims skin and whatever the reason for his actions.

 

RE: Why is it worse?

not so my unlearned friend, what if you asked the bloke outside to sort things out? Intention to commit gbh resulting in death.

 

RE: I understand that

It's one aggrevating factor affecting sentence like previous attacks etc.

 

RE: Why is it worse?

That's not what you said. You described a manslaughter.</p>

I prefer it when we make up daft songs and talk about loving.</p>

 

RE: Why is it worse?

No, I simplified a situation so Jay would understand.

Bandit

 

RE: Why is it worse?

Actually, if you intend to commit GBH and it results in them dying - it's murder.

 

I'm talking about the reason within the same situation

What you're saying is if these blokes who chased that poor lad through the park and put an axe through his head had done that to a white victim they should receive a lesser sentence. That's rubbish. Utter, utter rubbish.

Of course there's a distinction between different situations.

 

RE: I'm talking about the reason within the same situation

It's an additional crime for one thing.

 

I know it is

But it shouldn't be.

 

RE: Of course it is, it's descriminating based on race. That's what racism is.

Aye, I suppose you're reight. Employment is a blokes thing, especially when it comes to the easy jobsff

 

RE: I'm talking about the reason within the same situation

No it's not rubbish, it's an aggrevating factor.

 

RE: Of course it is, it's descriminating based on race. That's what racism is.

Women shouldn't worry their pretty heads about making money, and should just keep themselves occupied with the cooking and cleaning.

We wouldn't want you getting another migraine now, would we love?

Is sexism as bad as racism? Only blokes need answer by the way.

 

'kin 'ell

I know, as the law stands, that is the case. What I'm arguing is that it shouldn't be.

 

RE: I understand that

Why shouldnt racism be an aggravating fact when sentencing,we accept that the age of a victim is an aggravating fact in a murder or assault

 

RE: I know it is

Good point well made