BFC v The Press - Round 1

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  1. Journo Tyke

    Journo Tyke Well-Known Member

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    The only point that concerns me with it is withdrawing passes to some people... that will cause friction and bad press - which in my opinion we could do without.

    The other rules are completely fine and normal.

    Though no programmes in the press room is strange - every club I've ever been to provide these as BFC have up to now - maybe they'll be brought up to the press box, who knows?

    If certain organisations have been taking the mick then I think the best way forward is to deal with them individually.
     
  2. Red

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    halleluja !

    Standard practice.
     
  3. Journo Tyke

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    RE: halleluja !

    To withdraw season passes?

    That's the issue.
     
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    RE: halleluja !

    But they are going to issue new ones.
     
  5. The Full Ponty

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    This:

    In the tunnel before the Norwich game is about to kick off.
    Gord, who should be in the Directors box, has got lost & finds himself in the tunnel surrounded by players, officials & media.

    Gord: Nar then thee - av yer sin mi box?
    Ref: I'm sorry?
    Gord: Mi box - av yer sin it? It's full of blokes. Delia wants to be in it too.
    Ref: Who are you?
    Gord: Five to three
    Ref: Pardon? I'm sorry - we've got to get on the pitch
    Gord: Ey thee - ez thar sin mi box?
    Lodgey: Your box, Gordon?
    Gord: Aye - mi box ... it's had blokes in it
    Lodgey: You've had men in your box? How interesting - do carry on.
    Gord: It's wall to wall shag
    Lodgey: Really? Tell me more
    Gord: We're serving Delia's dinner in mi box. Cumberlands. Mi box were full of sausage this morning.
    Lodgey: Not sure if I want to see your box though, Gordon
    Gord: Yer can't miss it. Patrick's always in mi box.
    Lodgey: Patrick Cryne?
    Gord: He's in & art er mi box all the time on match days
    Lodgey: Can I quote you on that?
    Gord: Two litre turbo diesel
    Lodgey: Pardon?
    Gord: Therteh six pence
    Lodgey: What?
    Gord: Therteh six pence to find mi box
    Lodgey: I'm a reporter Gordon - not a rent boy
    Gord: Offer withdrawn - now get out of my office
    Lodgey: But we're in the tunnel Gord
    Gord: You won't be again - get out

    * they skip down the tunnel to the theme tune to Indiana Jones.
     
  6. Journo Tyke

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    TFP

    I must say you've got that spot on.
     
  7. The Full Ponty

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    Are you blind?

    I applaud the "standard practice" of a media policy.

    My point was the tone of the statement.
    You see?

    Two different things:

    (1) Policy = good.
    (2) Statement = bad.

    Can I make it any more simple for you?
     
  8. Journo Tyke

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    RE: halleluja !

    So what you're saying is they're withdrawing everyone's pass, only to give them all new ones.

    I don't think it's quite that simple mate.
     
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    No!

    There's nothing really wrong with it.</p>

    What's everybody gettin their nickers in such a twist for?</p>

    Mind you - it makes a change YOU being offended bymaterial written by others. It's usually the other way round :pff </p>
     
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    RE: halleluja !

    No it's not, you're right.</p>

    It's going to mean a whole new lot of work for somebody at the club to organise, do and get right. The man/woman hours involved will be significant.</p>

    Anyone stopped to wonder then, why are the club doing this? Why are they putting themselves through so much extra paperwork etc, when they could just let everything stay as it is. Perhaps, perhaps there is another reason. Just a thought, or rather an assumption.</p>

    As a journalist / reporter I realise this affects you. But we all have mazes to run round in our jobs, and we just have to overcome them, whatever they arethere for and get on with what we are good at.</p>
     
  11. Jay

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    Health and safety no doubt nt
     
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    RE: halleluja !

    I agree something's happened - as people have said - it's the way it's worded though.

    It's like when one person in class was talking and everyone got a detention and a boll***ing...
     
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    Agreed.

    Any member of the press found in the tunnel area without the correct identification, illuminous yellow jacket, safety boots, protective eyewear and accreditation can expect to be moved back to the Press Room.

    Failure to do so may result in ejection from the stadium.
    Using a gret big catapult.
     
  14. The Full Ponty

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    Nothing wrong with it?

    If that's the tone you would take to write a statement for your customers to read - then you're either not in a service sector ... or you work for the Government in some capacity.

    It's *****.
    Written in anger.
    Knee jerk reaction.
    *****.

    I don't get offended.
    Unless it's a fiddy kiddler.
     
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    RE: Nothing wrong with it?

    We're not selling cream teas here Ponty lad. Neither are we offering pensioner's lunches at the village hall.</p>

    This is a clear, concise, official statement and set of rules, around how visiting officials or whoever should conduct themselves at big crowd events, where emotions run high, contravention of which might (I say might) have far reaching consequences should things go wrong.</p>

    It doesn't even affect you. Lighten up man!</p>
     
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    RE: This:

    :pff
     
  17. The Full Ponty

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    I need to lighten up.

    I'm a right fat fecker.

    Aye - we're not selling cream teas.
    We're not planning a military operation either.

    I've just read it again & it gets worse every time.

    I've not even mentioned the fact that they put the "policy" on the website ... then followed it up with a "toe the line, or else" statement.

    I don't think it's simply "concise" either - it reads as being quite emotive.
    Something has happened & this is their reaction.
    It's cold & harsh.
    I don't like it.

    It does affect me.
    I'm Rib Noodles.
     
  18. Gue

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    If you don't have a process in place then it's very difficult to do so.
     
  19. BRF

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    RE: What's hostile about it?

    &quot;IN light of recent events, Barnsley Football Club would like to remind members of the press in the strongest possible terms that access to the tunnel area at Oakwell is strictly prohibited without express permission and accreditation from the Media Department.</p>

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    Any member of the press found in the tunnel area without the correct identification and accreditation can expect to be moved back to the Press Room. Failure to do so may result in ejection from the stadium.&quot;</p>

    1) It is reactionary ('in light of recent events').</p>

    2) It is pompous and self important ('permission and accreditation from the media department' - I take it permission and accreditation are two distinctly different things?).</p>

    3) It is aggressive ('failure to do so may result in ejection from the stadium' - i.e. tow the line or else)</p>

    4) It smells distinctly of the club trying to control or restrain the press and reign in any criticism (justified or otherwise) by bullying. At the end of the day if the club want a good image through the media, they'll have to learn to cultivate one positively.</p>

    There isnothing wrong withhaving a press policy (in fact we should have one) - but why not have one that stresses the fact that Barnsley FootballClub will do anything reasonably within it's power to give visiting journalists and members of the media a positive and enjoyable experience?Contrast that with the 'do what you're told or we'll throw you out' sentiment and you can see why I think the whole thing stinks of ****.</p>

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