Big jump again today to 562 deaths

You should change your username to HowManyDeaths?

 

Weird.

 

I’m not sure about anywhere else, but Wombwell/Hoyland I keep hearing high powered cars flying up and down the road... boy racers maybe? Not sure what they are doing at those speeds that is so essential at this time o night!

 

Well that's a weird flounce. Sithi.

 

Did you see yesterday's briefing with Hancock?

A journo asked how many frontline NHS staff had died. Hancock crapped himself and passed it to someone else. She couldn't answer. Or wouldn't answer.

So we've got the message from the Tories.

It doesn't matter how many doctors and nurses are dying. **** em. But hey, Boris is ok!

Horrible Tory Bar Stewards.

 

If one person dies it's a tragedy, if a million people die it's a statistic.

 

It turned my stomach when he referred to NHS workers as “frontline heroes “. They wouldn’t have to be heroic if he’d done his job and prepared for the pandemic they knew was coming!

 

Ruth is a nurse too and i'm sure if Ruth knew the exact figure then she would have told us: Ruth is not the government and she most certainly will not be a tory. People working with highly infected patients even with enhanced ppe have a higher chance of contracting the illness.
There would have been more chance of catching it at Asda yesterday morning. Hordes queueing outside and far too many allowed inside. No chance of social distancing and an old boy walking round pulling his mask down and consistently sneezing.

 

Exactly.

My Mrs works at Northern General - albeit not front line, and it's getting scary. The ward she is on received their first batch of face masks on Thursday.

But Johnson and Hancock will be in front of the cameras again saying how much they love the NHS after decimating it for years.

 

I can’t stand Hand **** and Raab, but isn’t it Senior Management in the NHS Trusts who ought to have had the PPE in place as part of the pandemic/disaster planning before this all kicked off?

 

Yes.

But when they haven't got a pot to piss in thanks to the names you mentioned, then it's rather difficult.

 

Easy with the benefit of hindsight, but I’m almost certain now those Senior Management teams wish they’d spent the money on the PPE instead of something else. Understand the funding constraints they’re working to, but in context, the NHS still has more paid employees than any other healthcare organisation in the world.

Everyone knows the frontline staff do an incredible job, but are the senior management up to it? The whole Trust structure seems very inefficient - albeit obviously speaking as a total layperson. I’m more asking the question of those who know it a bit better than I do....

 

I really don't know how it works, so this is a question and a thought, not a statement. Although I'm sure they have some autonomy, the NHS spends tax payers money, so what that money is spent on will be restricted. They couldn't, to use an extreme example, spunk all the money up the wall on a piss up in Vegas. I would have thought they there is a limited budget for each area of spend: staff, drugs, equipment, protective clothing etc
But like I said I really don't know

 

What ward does she work on?

 

No, as I say, I’m also arguing from a position of ignorance really as all my experience is in the private sector. But in a context I’d know - if you substitute the Tories as ‘shareholders’ and NHS senior management as ‘Executives’ then at some stage the management team need to be looked at.

Also - the reports seem to show that some Trusts are way, way better equipped for PPE than others - so either the funding between them is completely inequitable or some management teams have just performed miles better than others.

 

The nhs is independant of the government. Individual trusts split their budget up (staffing etc). We always have a surplus on all our budgets other than staffing. We then see a huge rush to spend it in march. We have 4 huge screens over 4 wards in the offices that simply show patients initials, d.o.b, nhs number and date of admission. These cost 6k each about 8 years ago. They were bought only to spend the budget. I've often asked why if we have surplus in other areas then why don't you lower it and put it on the staffing budget... madness the money that gets wasted.

 

Makes sense. I'm going to shurrup because I literally haven't a clue what I'm talking about.

 

Operation Cygnus told the government that the level of preparedness for a pandemic fell woefully short. They ignored the findings.

 

Hancock has just been on TV ‘hinting’ that the 19 NHS staff that have died, may have caught the virus in a non work related way. Priceless!